art students, ya gotta love 'em

— "t.whid" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Art Student Admits Planting Boxes In Subway Station
>

Another reason to look forward to "Art School
Confidential"

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undercover cop who must pose as an art student, only
to gain critical acclaim for his work. Although he is
actively searching for a killer, the cop-turned-artist
helps bring himself recognition by posing as the
felon-at-large. When the cop realizes that his
critical kudos hinge upon him posing as a killer, he
contemplates taking the rap for the crime.
Art School Confidential currently has John Malkovich
and Drew Barrymore attached, with Terry Zwigoff set to
direct. The film was inspired by a comic story written
by Chicago cartoonist Dan Clowes."



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> Art Student Admits Planting Boxes In Subway Station

http://www.ny1.com/ny/TopStories/SubTopic/index.html?topicintid=1&subtopicintid=1&contentintid&573

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> An art student has confessed to planting dozens of suspicious
> boxes that led to the evacuation of the Union Square subway station >
last week,.

Somebody's gotta love 'em, but is that our job? Lotta hip jokesters out
there. Hmmm… UnionSquare, I would have assume it was my alumni from
proximity. Anyhow- isn't there enough examples/case studies of public art
to study any how?

http://www.contracosta.cc.ca.us/Art/116PublicArtStudyImages.htm

Tilted arc at the Federal Bldg. NYC is my favorite annoying art piece. The
people down there just couldn't be bothered by it, "clear it out boys!" if
this student gets famous for this he will be 2nd on my top ten list of
annoying art.

"The viewer becomes aware of himself and of his movement through the
plaza. As he moves, the sculpture changes. Contraction and expansion of
the sculpture result from the viewer's movement. Step by step the
perception not only of the sculpture but of the entire environment
changes." -R.S.
http://www.urtonart.com/history/postmodern.htm

I thought Serra's work mostly about fear and intimidation (heavy big, dark
rusty slabs, deadly in some cases), in this case it's the fear factor
level was like at 2. Instead of fear/intimidation, (the people downtown
couldn't be bothered to be afraid of modern art), Serra uses deprivation
of basic needs to rile-up the public. People just want to get to work,
from here to there, much like the commuters at Union Square. Making this
piece one of his failures.

Speaking of Serra's fear based art failures, I am also reminded of Frank
Gehry versus Serra in at the Guggenheim Bilbao. Gehry's Architecture
completely miniaturizes Serra's "snake". I disagree with this critic's
statement that it is the piece "holds it's own" at the Gugg Bilbao:
http://www.jasonkaufman.com/articles/gehrys\_guggenheim\_bilbao.htm
Furthermore, if The Gugg Bilbao is the Rolls Royce (or is it a
Lamborghini?) of Museums then the Serra is just a silly dashboard ornament
that should be tossed out the window.

(bottom right)
http://www.artnet.com/Magazine/people/robinson/robinson2-17-00.asp


Another article for a new thread:
"Americans 'get it,' they just 'don't like it'"
http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/PEstory/TGAM/20020928/FCMALL28/Comment/comment/commentColumnistsHeadline\_temp/5/5/15/


Over and out,
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someone wrote offline:

>I was ticked off when it happened and it is just
> sad as art even on a student level but…the kids in
> jail […]

I'm not sure who is to blame here. I would like to hold SVA accountable
for it's student too.

~~ His time might also be better served returning community time to that
area. Getting down there and seeing how difficult and stressful it is to
use that station on a daily basis might allow him to recognize the
importance of a free flowing public space. Same goes for Serra, whom I
wish would have been feed a dose of his own medicine by parking that
sculpture between his bathroom and the rest of his home. It'd be quite an
inconvenience wouldn't it?

>> Tilted arc at the Federal Bldg. NYC is my favorite
>> annoying art piece.
>
> What about those cows?
>

The cows are o.k., The bronze rescue dogs at the FAO Scwhartz are nice
too- Hiedi Klum, o-hum o-yeah, that's right!

http://www.akc.org/insideAKC/dogNY/klum_0902.cfm


-muserna
A.K.A. Sir Pet's Name

on 12/17/02 11:38 AM, Meta Pen at [email protected] wrote:

> I thought Serra's work mostly about fear and intimidation (heavy big, dark
> rusty slabs, deadly in some cases), in this case it's the fear factor
> level was like at 2. Instead of fear/intimidation, (the people downtown
> couldn't be bothered to be afraid of modern art), Serra uses deprivation
> of basic needs to rile-up the public. People just want to get to work,
> from here to there, much like the commuters at Union Square. Making this
> piece one of his failures.

This couldn't be more off the mark, in my view. Serra's work is indeed
intimidating, as is any large slab of heavy metal, but it is also
extraordinarily beautiful and creates a breathtaking experience for anybody
who traverses it and allows oneself to feel the changes of perception and
experience of the world it induces in one's body and mind.

As for people who just want to get to work and not have to deal with
obstructions along the way, screw them! They should learn to appreciate art
and nature and all the many other good reasons for bringing one's body and
being into the world, or else simply stay home. Tilted Arc was not Serra's
failure as a work of art so much as the failure of American politics and
culture and the corporate ethos to absorb a great, difficult work that
defied them all powerfully and authoritatively – if ultimately
unsuccessfully, to the lasting shame of this still too-ignorant country.


On a related note, does anybody know the address where that big vertical
Serra sculpture is in San Francisco? (I think it is called Snoopy.) What
building is it in, please? I would REALLY appreciate a response!


Mark ([email protected])

> someone wrote offline:
>
> >I was ticked off when it happened and it is just
> > sad as art even on a student level but…the kids in
> > jail […]
>
> I'm not sure who is to blame here. I would like to hold SVA accountable
> for it's student too.
>
> ~~ His time might also be better served returning community time to that
> area. Getting down there and seeing how difficult and stressful it is to
> use that station on a daily basis might allow him to recognize the
> importance of a free flowing public space.

I just have to say, aren't we getting a bit pompous here? Maybe the artist
rather than being contrite would turn around and shout 'screw you and your
desire for a free flowing public space'.

Surely we have nothing to fear except fear itself.

Surely it is the role of artists to bring us up against our complacencies.
And surely isn't fear causing us to be complacent about a lot of things at
the moment?

I mean, it would piss me off if I'd been caught up in the event, but I've
often been caught up in totally non-art transit screw ups. And those don't
even give you a pay off.

I like the idea of empty boxes with the word fear on them bringing the
system to a standstill.

Think lateral, act literal.

Ivan

Putting scary boxes in a subway station in this day and age is the same as
shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theater - a perfect example of criminal abuse of
the right of free speech. A reasonable person (even an art student) should
foresee that it would be at least a cause of major disruption of people's lives
and essential freedom of movement and conceivably a cause of injury or death to
panicked people.

This was a very easy and stupid form of artistic behavior. The practice of art
does not justify the sabotaging and endangering of other people's lives. Then
it is no better than the coercive societal conditions against which it
purportedly directs itself. That was the lesson of Serra's stupid and
oppressive placement of his Tilted Arc in Federal Plaza.

The school is responsible only if it approved the stupidity in advance.

I hereby sentence the artist to 38 days of cleanup work in that station (one
day for each box) and counseling to strengthen his powers of envisioning the
consequences of his acts.

Daniel Young
[email protected]



Original Message —–
From: "Ivan Pope" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 4:55 AM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: art students, ya gotta love 'em


> > someone wrote offline:
> >
> > >I was ticked off when it happened and it is just
> > > sad as art even on a student level but…the kids in
> > > jail […]
> >
> > I'm not sure who is to blame here. I would like to hold SVA accountable
> > for it's student too.
> >
> > ~~ His time might also be better served returning community time to that
> > area. Getting down there and seeing how difficult and stressful it is to
> > use that station on a daily basis might allow him to recognize the
> > importance of a free flowing public space.
>
> I just have to say, aren't we getting a bit pompous here? Maybe the artist
> rather than being contrite would turn around and shout 'screw you and your
> desire for a free flowing public space'.
>
> Surely we have nothing to fear except fear itself.
>
> Surely it is the role of artists to bring us up against our complacencies.
> And surely isn't fear causing us to be complacent about a lot of things at
> the moment?
>
> I mean, it would piss me off if I'd been caught up in the event, but I've
> often been caught up in totally non-art transit screw ups. And those don't
> even give you a pay off.
>
> I like the idea of empty boxes with the word fear on them bringing the
> system to a standstill.
>
> Think lateral, act literal.
>
> Ivan
>
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