Re: google

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bigup to jack+ginger!

googles project is nice i enjoy it. i care what is there as it is "everything" coming through google which is a nice framing. it is more interesting to me than the favorite numbers project as the frame of "everything" is often viable and interesting.

what i find missing in the personal rocknroll art rhetoric is a comprehension of the medium. googles project is cool since it is so banal it just is searches. i think personal net art dialogues often assume that there is nothing inherently wrong with the medium, ie that code is a materialistic, production oriented, military language. using more traditional means does not break OUT of it, but confines artistic or seductive lines to the military aesthetic.

in a similar way i find adbusters/BLF work dissapointing. what is detrimental in ad copy is the narrowcasting of language to taglines, and the reductivism. it is similar to deborah tannen's ideas on genderlects - copy is like a "capitalect" that pervades thought. subverting while using the same "capitalect" is still being trapped.

to me a good vibe to follow is the intro to thousand plateaus in terms of creating horizons or tangents out of rational systems. thats what i thought was interesting and funny in valery's self-portrait and why i responded with my "other portrait".

but anyways i am at work and sort of meandering.

chris otto

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, D42 Kandinskij

On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Christopher Otto wrote:

> in a similar way i find adbusters/BLF work dissapointing. what is detrimental in ad copy is the narrowcasting of language to taglines, and the reductivism. it is similar to deborah tannen's ideas on genderlects - copy is like a "capitalect" that pervades thought. subverting while using the same "capitalect" is still being trapped.

'subverting' is still being trapped
perpetuation of the illusion of some agent
'from outside' which prevents a 'perceived'
freedom

there is nothing to 'subvert' besides oneself
+ one's own delusions

tak.

+ no-one can subvert another's delusion
one canonly assist active conscious humans seeking
'assistance' to deal with such

, neuston

I wonder, If I could input my own words for searching, that would be great.


Meggan wrote:

> The google series is an exploration of how we interact with, search
> for, define, and integrate imagery into internet space. The google
> search engine has become a cultural icon in itself, a verb… and so I
> use it to flesh out icons, canonic cultural imagery, to explore the
> interplay between text and image. I have written a program that
> averages the first 60 results of a google image search–most images
> emerge as a hopeless jumble of pixels, but
> an elusive category retains a certain degree of clarity. All change
> over time,
> shifting in the space between links and clicks.

, Meggan Gould

that is how I have it functioning on the local level–anyone can enter anything and it comes up with the average, while showing you a sort of slideshow of all of the results, but next phase is certainly to make that happen online….


neuston wrote:

> I wonder, If I could input my own words for searching, that would be
> great.
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> Meggan wrote:
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> > The google series is an exploration of how we interact with, search
> > for, define, and integrate imagery into internet space. The google
> > search engine has become a cultural icon in itself, a verb… and so
> I
> > use it to flesh out icons, canonic cultural imagery, to explore the
> > interplay between text and image. I have written a program that
> > averages the first 60 results of a google image search–most images
> > emerge as a hopeless jumble of pixels, but
> > an elusive category retains a certain degree of clarity. All change
> > over time,
> > shifting in the space between links and clicks.