Re: Mouchette website censored - public debate

Hi Anna, I have some massive issues with Mouchette's art. On top of
lacking any real insights, having horrible aesthetics and my problems
with Mouchettes rampant careerism, I also have issues with art that I
feel glamorizes self destruction, sexual abuse and death.

You'd have thought people would have had enough of false presentations
of death and self destruction by now since it was so connected to the
early 90's bubble of security, when western societies were desperate for
an opportunity to fetishize these things because it gave them a chance
to break up the monotony of comfort. For now, anyone that enjoys the
tongue in cheek sexualizations of 13 year old girls [for example,
http://www.mouchette.org/touch/plush.html ] might simply read the news
for their titillation, where Fundamentalist regimes crank out
Mouchette-like "art" such as court ordered gang rape on a mass scale. I
think this is the type of art that ought to be ignored. I find very
little evidence that Mouchette is exploring anything except for the
territory of sexualization in this piece, either, nor do I find any
explicit or implied condemnation of the practice. This is even more
interesting if the rumor that Mouchette is a 45 year old man are true.
I'm as sexually liberated as your next descendant of puritanical New
Englanders, so I don't think I am being close minded about this, but I
can't find any value in this work outside of the sexualization of 13
year olds. [ http://mouchette.org/music/index.html is another example,
where Mouchette- allegedly a 13 year old girl, remember- "whimpers" or
"moans" depending on your interactions.] Since no one seems repulsed by
this art, I assume maybe I am just too stupid to have picked up on
something of value? If anyone can tell me why, I am open to it. My
assumption, however, is that people are simply too busy reading resumes.
I might write a more full blown "article" on how Mouchette is simply
soft-core child pornography, and I'd like to hear opposing viewpoints.

Censorship I don't like either, but I have no reason to believe in this
claim, when it is coming from an "artist" who fakes his/her identity,
makes false accusations against other artists in public, etc. Why should
I believe it, when I know for a fact that it has lied about things in
the past for the sake of "rallying support" for its career? [the
drivedrive "I hate Mouchette" hoaxes, for example- which, ironically
enough, was a cover for her to try to trademark her own name, so that
"detractors" (which were generated by mouchette itself) could be
stopped.] If you try to access it now, it reloads automatically to the
alleged cease and desist letter. It's the only page that does that on
the whole site besides the piece in question. Why would that be?

Cheers,
-e.




anna balint wrote:

>would censors care about her suicide?
>there must be someting wrong with the suicide as well,
>since mouchette is an artist in residence presently at
>Franklin Furnace, NY.
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>greetings,
>ab
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>24.10.2002 21:32:29, Eryk Salvaggio <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 15:32:29 -0400
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>> From: Eryk Salvaggio <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Cc: [email protected]
>> Subject:Re: [syndicate] Mouchette website censored - public debate
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>> Didn't she kill herself yet?
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>> -e.
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>> anna balint wrote:
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>> Mouchette's website censored by copyright
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