Gamers vs. Art

via Ed Halter's delicious, a thread on an independent gaming discussion board about Mark Essen's inclusion in "Younger Than Jesus":
http://forums.tigsource.com/index.php?topic=4412.0;prev_next=prev#new

Some choice quotes:

"I wish that people would stop talking about "art games," though. I think it's a really harmful label, because it sets them apart from all other games and, to me, suggests both that these "art games" are somehow niche products/creations and that every other game is somehow incapable of being art, or possessing some quality of art."

"flywrench is cool but calling it modern art is insulting it a little. games are better than art because they are simply more"