In a message dated 8/22/2002 7:57:44 PM Central Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
> Any other options or facts to be placed on the table?
First off, the DMCA makes it illegal to defame someone professionally in a
"chat room" so Rawlley can be sued just for posting here. I consider her
broaching the topic to be risky on her part. What role the Gagosian Gallery
has here, if any, none, who knows.
I don't know if Rhizome, having awarded the grant legally, has any further
role here. Those of us on the chat board, I suppose we can relatively safely
comment from the relative safety of our artistic merit.
However, it is odd that Gagosian could thinkably sue me for saying Rawlley is
not insane, lying, defamatory, in criminal violation, etc.
I doubt that Rhizome editorial policy is to end discussion of the merits of
the grant to NUNGU and move on, who knows.
I might be offline for a few days, moving and all.
Max
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Compliance, Trust, and Brand Value: NUNGU
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Type: discussion
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on 8/22/02 9:14 PM, [email protected] [email protected] ecrit :
> First off, the DMCA makes it illegal to defame someone professionally in a
> "chat room" so Rawlley can be sued just for posting here.
Vishall probably doesn't have a lawyer and was probably not thinking about
going to court, -but if Vishall does have a lawyer then perhaps he should
consult him/her before posting again.
Anyhow - if Vishall feels his statements to be the truth then he should
state them publicly.(and if taken to court by Gagosian or Bea, and Vishall
still doesn't have a lawyer then Vishall can, if proven sane, testify for
himself.) With that said I think Vishall's statements are, in a sense, his
public testimony of what he perceives is the truth.
> I suppose we can relatively safely
> comment from the relative safety of our artistic merit.
Word: Artistic merit has nothing to do with opinions regarding this
situation. If ones art is "visual" and he expresses himself "verbally" and
sounds like flat crap that's not reason enough to discredit their visual
artistic merit.
In Matisse's prelude to "Notes d'une Peintre" 1908, (Red Room fans forgive
me for paraphrasing), Matisse begs people to be gentle on him if he should
say something stupid since the world of words is not his forte, and the
first an most important comment he can say is in his paintings.
> I might be offline for a few days, moving and all.
Goodluck w/that. And wear a belt, bust your back like I did and it's over.
muserna
"""""
( 0 0) <- Ever seen a bucktooth dino with hair?
}. .{ Don't laugh, but you have now.
–uu-
`-' Goofy Dinos only at:
http://home.earthlink.net/~hairymuseum/gdotw
on 8/22/02 9:14 PM, [email protected] [email protected] ecrit :
> First off, the DMCA makes it illegal to defame someone professionally in a
> "chat room" so Rawlley can be sued just for posting here. I consider her
> broaching the topic to be risky on her part. What role the Gagosian Gallery
> has here, if any, none, who knows.
So when I D.D.D. ( defame / deface / destroy***) Unos
http://unosyunoyunosceros.com on Sept 10-11 will it be illegal?
(**vamos a pelear y luchar como hermanos, el es mi hermano del otro lado del
rio pero de la misma sangre - y el lo sabe)
http://www.museotamayo.org/inmerso/infomera
I don't care, I gonna done D.D.D. him anyhow!
www.museotamayo.org/inmerso/infomera/playercards/muserna.htm
www.museotamayo.org/inmerso/infomera/playercards/arcangel.htm
-Cross-bones style too!!!
Which reminds me– you know who I'd really like to get in the ring with me
in the WWWF?
(World-Wide Web Wrestling Federation) Take a guess…
-muserna
"""""
( 0 0) <- Ever seen a bucktooth dino with hair?
}. .{ Don't laugh, but you have now.
–uu-
`-' Goofy Dinos only at:
http://home.earthlink.net/~hairymuseum/gdotw
I think I need to clarify that my previous email was written merely to
express my support for Bea Gibson. I happen to work at Gagosian Gallery in
London - but my connection to Bea and nungu is completely independent of
this. Any Gagosian involvement you seem to have established is void. Thanks!
Laura
—–Original Message—–
From: Pet Name [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 23 August 2002 05:20
To: [email protected]; Laura Bartlett; [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Compliance, Trust, and Brand Value: NUNGU
on 8/22/02 9:14 PM, [email protected] [email protected] ecrit :
> First off, the DMCA makes it illegal to defame someone professionally in a
> "chat room" so Rawlley can be sued just for posting here.
Vishall probably doesn't have a lawyer and was probably not thinking about
going to court, -but if Vishall does have a lawyer then perhaps he should
consult him/her before posting again.
Anyhow - if Vishall feels his statements to be the truth then he should
state them publicly.(and if taken to court by Gagosian or Bea, and Vishall
still doesn't have a lawyer then Vishall can, if proven sane, testify for
himself.) With that said I think Vishall's statements are, in a sense, his
public testimony of what he perceives is the truth.
> I suppose we can relatively safely
> comment from the relative safety of our artistic merit.
Word: Artistic merit has nothing to do with opinions regarding this
situation. If ones art is "visual" and he expresses himself "verbally" and
sounds like flat crap that's not reason enough to discredit their visual
artistic merit.
In Matisse's prelude to "Notes d'une Peintre" 1908, (Red Room fans forgive
me for paraphrasing), Matisse begs people to be gentle on him if he should
say something stupid since the world of words is not his forte, and the
first an most important comment he can say is in his paintings.
> I might be offline for a few days, moving and all.
Goodluck w/that. And wear a belt, bust your back like I did and it's over.
muserna
"""""
( 0 0) <- Ever seen a bucktooth dino with hair?
}. .{ Don't laugh, but you have now.
–uu-
`-' Goofy Dinos only at:
http://home.earthlink.net/~hairymuseum/gdotw