grassroots

Terrence writes;

I remember listening to throbbing gristle when i was at art school in 1985,,
that was 4 years after the band split and to think this was on a cbc radio
show called brave new waves.

http://userpages.umbc.edu/~vijay/tg/intro.html

>From: "furtherfield" <[email protected]>
>Reply-To: "furtherfield" <[email protected]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Subject: RHIZOME\_RAW: grassroots
>Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 02:50:17 +0100
>
>BlankHi Lee,
>
>Before I excrete my emotional reasoning on this page below, Welcome to
>rhizome…
>
>
>A lot of the stations that I have personally worked with and do listen to a
>lot of the time, in the UK and Holland; small stations mainly pirate -
>spend
>a lot of time promoting local talent, with explorative musicians, poets and
>traditional folk, plus dance. Those who are grassroots, and who do not fit
>into the contemporary attitude/default, have been thumped by larger
>corporate groups who have forgotten where they have originally come from -
>Communities. Music can change a generation and cause revolutions because it
>communicates outside institutional structures. If you get rid of those up
>and coming groups, who are more than just 'pimp candy', you get a different
>generation. One which could be less questioning about world issues and
>everyday issues.
>
>Copyright, is not the real issue here - judge the function not the
>propaganda. I'm sure that you are aware that the Russians used to call
>advertising propaganda - still do I hope. Promote the maxim, hide the
>reality; is the truth behind corporate marketing - just check everyone's
>accounts. I'm sure you've heard the news, all those poor companies who are
>so caring. There is a much bigger issue at hand, and by denying this and
>deluding ourselves that an action by such corporations is not connected to
>suppression, would be foolhardy. Think of all those stations who are
>promoting art/music that questions such negative & mindless exploitations
>such as what you termed as 'Global Warming and Global Terror' and of course
>this war about oil. It is a political move, wrapped in the guise of
>economics - the soul of the white man is money; that is understood.
>Accepted
>as our God, creativity is merely a tool as far as multinationals are
>concerned, talent is always a threat - a loose cannon. If it is not put in
>its place like everything else that can be bought, then it will be made
>illegal to create on our own terms, and we will continue to be dumbed down
>until we are just apologetic children, scared to think our own thoughts.
>They are lying, that is reality. If we want to see the truth, we can just
>open our own eyes - view from our own minds, not someone else's.
>
>marc garrett
>
>
>
> > To play devils advocate.
> > Are these small business getting permission to play the copywritten
> > material. Are they selling it or providing the content through a
> > subscription model?
> >
> > Would any of you be cool with a small gallery exhibiting your art
>without
> > your permission or knowledge? I know I would have a problem with it.
> >
> > If I release a song, I want to know whos playing it. If I deserve
>royalties
> > you bet I'm going to try to collect. I will send my lawyers after anyone
> > violating my copyright.
> >
> > In the big picture I think our planet has some larger issues to tackle
>like
> > Global Warming and Global Terror.
> >
> > Oh by the way hi everyone.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Lee
> > ———-
>
>
>





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Hi Terrence,

Good to hear from you (or see your text).
Those ol' throbber kittens. My most favorite song of theirs is…

Something came over me…but I don't know what it was :-)

marc


>
> Terrence writes;
>
> I remember listening to throbbing gristle when i was at art school in
1985,,
> that was 4 years after the band split and to think this was on a cbc radio
> show called brave new waves.
>
> http://userpages.umbc.edu/~vijay/tg/intro.html
>
> >From: "furtherfield" <[email protected]>
> >Reply-To: "furtherfield" <[email protected]>
> >To: <[email protected]>
> >Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: grassroots
> >Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 02:50:17 +0100
> >
> >BlankHi Lee,
> >
> >Before I excrete my emotional reasoning on this page below, Welcome to
> >rhizome…
> >
> >
> >A lot of the stations that I have personally worked with and do listen to
a
> >lot of the time, in the UK and Holland; small stations mainly pirate -
> >spend
> >a lot of time promoting local talent, with explorative musicians, poets
and
> >traditional folk, plus dance. Those who are grassroots, and who do not
fit
> >into the contemporary attitude/default, have been thumped by larger
> >corporate groups who have forgotten where they have originally come
from -
> >Communities. Music can change a generation and cause revolutions because
it
> >communicates outside institutional structures. If you get rid of those up
> >and coming groups, who are more than just 'pimp candy', you get a
different
> >generation. One which could be less questioning about world issues and
> >everyday issues.
> >
> >Copyright, is not the real issue here - judge the function not the
> >propaganda. I'm sure that you are aware that the Russians used to call
> >advertising propaganda - still do I hope. Promote the maxim, hide the
> >reality; is the truth behind corporate marketing - just check everyone's
> >accounts. I'm sure you've heard the news, all those poor companies who
are
> >so caring. There is a much bigger issue at hand, and by denying this and
> >deluding ourselves that an action by such corporations is not connected
to
> >suppression, would be foolhardy. Think of all those stations who are
> >promoting art/music that questions such negative & mindless exploitations
> >such as what you termed as 'Global Warming and Global Terror' and of
course
> >this war about oil. It is a political move, wrapped in the guise of
> >economics - the soul of the white man is money; that is understood.
> >Accepted
> >as our God, creativity is merely a tool as far as multinationals are
> >concerned, talent is always a threat - a loose cannon. If it is not put
in
> >its place like everything else that can be bought, then it will be made
> >illegal to create on our own terms, and we will continue to be dumbed
down
> >until we are just apologetic children, scared to think our own thoughts.
> >They are lying, that is reality. If we want to see the truth, we can just
> >open our own eyes - view from our own minds, not someone else's.
> >
> >marc garrett
> >
> >
> >
> > > To play devils advocate.
> > > Are these small business getting permission to play the copywritten
> > > material. Are they selling it or providing the content through a
> > > subscription model?
> > >
> > > Would any of you be cool with a small gallery exhibiting your art
> >without
> > > your permission or knowledge? I know I would have a problem with it.
> > >
> > > If I release a song, I want to know whos playing it. If I deserve
> >royalties
> > > you bet I'm going to try to collect. I will send my lawyers after
anyone
> > > violating my copyright.
> > >
> > > In the big picture I think our planet has some larger issues to tackle
> >like
> > > Global Warming and Global Terror.
> > >
> > > Oh by the way hi everyone.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Lee
> > > ———-
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> Good to hear from you (or see your text).
> Those ol' throbber kittens. My most favorite song of theirs is…
>
> Something came over me…but I don't know what it was :-)
>
Oh yes, oh yes Third and Final Annual Report, I spent a year or so crashing
out to that, it induced such spooked dreams. Later I became a great fan of
The Leather Nun, as sort of Swedish Throbbing Gristle tribute band :). I
used their '48 hours to live' in my foundation graduation show on an endless
loop. 'Sitting resting in a chair, getting a sun tan, 48 hours to live'.
Drove everyone scatty. Lovely. Oh, memories. Cheers, Ivan

Hi Ivan,

Oh yes, Leather Nun. I prefer their 12 inch b side fist…..r! A classic
deviant dance romp.

marc


>
> >
> > Good to hear from you (or see your text).
> > Those ol' throbber kittens. My most favorite song of theirs is…
> >
> > Something came over me…but I don't know what it was :-)
> >
> Oh yes, oh yes Third and Final Annual Report, I spent a year or so
crashing
> out to that, it induced such spooked dreams. Later I became a great fan of
> The Leather Nun, as sort of Swedish Throbbing Gristle tribute band :). I
> used their '48 hours to live' in my foundation graduation show on an
endless
> loop. 'Sitting resting in a chair, getting a sun tan, 48 hours to live'.
> Drove everyone scatty. Lovely. Oh, memories. Cheers, Ivan
>
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