Re: About fauves, wild beasts and feras - tigers /-

hi Regina - just a quick thought - i think you are stretching it more than a bit to harken back to so-called Fauvism in order to only say that there are "whiz" programmers out there. of course there are skilled programmers but most of them are not artists. but more to the point - Fauvism meant something quite different in 1905. the term was originally meant (by the critic who penned it) as an insult because of the perceived lack of skill expressed through new work that was coming from a group of artists later known as "Fauvists". perhaps the term Fauve (if you must use it) would more likely describe an artist programmer who breaks from the conventions that would mark her/him as a skilled programmer in the conventional sense - a poorly skilled programmer - again in the sense of what "skill" means to conventional programmers. the term was not an indication of perfected skills but reckless abandonement of established "skills", and i would argue that this is still the widely held interpetation of the term. beyond this - invoking Fauvism only places net art squarely in the modernist camp that much of net art (fortunately) seems to reject -

mark


Regina Celia Pinto wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> Some people have written me telling that they did not understand the
> second
> page of my e-book 'The Craft of the Web.Artist, Some Considerations',
> which
> I called "Fauve" in programming? , at:
>
> http://arteonline.arq.br/web_art_considerations/dois.htm
>
> In fact there is a difficult language joke there:
>
> "Fauvism, French Fauvisme, style of painting that flourished in France
> from
> 1898 to 1908; it used pure, brilliant colour, applied straight from
> the
> paint tubes in an aggressive, direct manner to create a sense of an
> explosion on the canvas. The Fauves painted directly from nature as
> the
> Impressionists had before them, but their works were invested with a
> strong
> expressive reaction to the subjects they painted. First formally
> exhibited
> in Paris in 1905, Fauvist paintings shocked visitors to the annual
> Salon
> d'Automne; one of these visitors was the critic Louis Vauxcelles,
> who,
> because of the violence of their works, dubbed the painters "Les
> Fauves"
> (Wild Beasts)."
>
> Well, in portuguese to be "fera" (fauve - wild beast) in something is
> to do
> something very very well, is to be a whiz.
>
> I use "fauve" in programming with the sense of "programming whiz".
>
> The tiger there is related with the word Fauve (French) - Fera
> (Portuguese) - Wild Beast (English).
>
> Also I used pure, brilliant colour at the background of my e-book
> because of
> the Fauves, specialy Henri Matisse, who I admire deeply.
>
> The tiger made of words try to show what is "inside of the real
> tigers"
> there, or it shows that those tigers are not real but programmed.
> Only a
> very good programmer could programm alive tigers.
>
> All the best,
>
> Regina C�lia Pinto
>
> http://arteonline.arq.br/
> http://arteonline.arq.br/library.htm
>
> New Works:
>
> http://arteonline.arq.br/magic_walls/
> http://arteonline.arq.br/eva/
> http://arteonline.arq.br/ducks/
>
>

Comments

, Regina Pinto

Hi Mark,

Thanks for your reply, you should see my work knowing that in Portuguese
(Brazilian), my language, to be "fera" in anything is to do anything very
very well, fera = fauve, so that, what I imagined when I created the work,
was just to say that Fauve in programming is someone that programms very
very well.

On the other hand I know that Fauvism meant something quite different in
1905 but nowadays people admire the Fauvists, so that things change after
years, the same will happen with web.art. As far as I know, this kind of art
is not being insulted, but there are many people in the world that ignores
what web.art is. It is yet very early to say anything concrete about it,
only after years and with some distance we will know what web.art really was
and what were the necessary web.artist's skills. For that reason I asked:

Fauve in programming?

The Fauvism is there just to say that things change and it is very diffcult
to see things clearly when we are in the "eye of the hurricane". The other
reason is that I really love the Fauvist colours ;-), but it is a personal
reason. Perhaps, if I was alive in 1905 I have hated them …

Cheers,

Regina


—– Original Message —–
From: "mark cooley" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 2:31 PM
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: Re: About fauves, wild beasts and feras - tigers /-


> hi Regina - just a quick thought - i think you are stretching it more
> than a bit to harken back to so-called Fauvism in order to only say that
> there are "whiz" programmers out there. of course there are skilled
> programmers but most of them are not artists. but more to the point -
> Fauvism meant something quite different in 1905. the term was originally
> meant (by the critic who penned it) as an insult because of the perceived
> lack of skill expressed through new work that was coming from a group of
> artists later known as "Fauvists". perhaps the term Fauve (if you must
> use it) would more likely describe an artist programmer who breaks from
> the conventions that would mark her/him as a skilled programmer in the
> conventional sense - a poorly skilled programmer - again in the sense of
> what "skill" means to conventional programmers. the term was not an
> indication of perfected skills but reckless abandonement of established
> "skills", and i would argue that this is still the widel!
> y held interpetation of the term. beyond this - invoking Fauvism only
> places net art squarely in the modernist camp that much of net art
> (fortunately) seems to reject -
>
> mark
>
>
> Regina Celia Pinto wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Some people have written me telling that they did not understand the
>> second
>> page of my e-book 'The Craft of the Web.Artist, Some Considerations',
>> which
>> I called "Fauve" in programming? , at:
>>
>> http://arteonline.arq.br/web_art_considerations/dois.htm
>>
>> In fact there is a difficult language joke there:
>>
>> "Fauvism, French Fauvisme, style of painting that flourished in France
>> from
>> 1898 to 1908; it used pure, brilliant colour, applied straight from
>> the
>> paint tubes in an aggressive, direct manner to create a sense of an
>> explosion on the canvas. The Fauves painted directly from nature as
>> the
>> Impressionists had before them, but their works were invested with a
>> strong
>> expressive reaction to the subjects they painted. First formally
>> exhibited
>> in Paris in 1905, Fauvist paintings shocked visitors to the annual
>> Salon
>> d'Automne; one of these visitors was the critic Louis Vauxcelles,
>> who,
>> because of the violence of their works, dubbed the painters "Les
>> Fauves"
>> (Wild Beasts)."
>>
>> Well, in portuguese to be "fera" (fauve - wild beast) in something is
>> to do
>> something very very well, is to be a whiz.
>>
>> I use "fauve" in programming with the sense of "programming whiz".
>>
>> The tiger there is related with the word Fauve (French) - Fera
>> (Portuguese) - Wild Beast (English).
>>
>> Also I used pure, brilliant colour at the background of my e-book
>> because of
>> the Fauves, specialy Henri Matisse, who I admire deeply.
>>
>> The tiger made of words try to show what is "inside of the real
>> tigers"
>> there, or it shows that those tigers are not real but programmed.
>> Only a
>> very good programmer could programm alive tigers.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Regina C�lia Pinto
>>
>> http://arteonline.arq.br/
>> http://arteonline.arq.br/library.htm
>>
>> New Works:
>>
>> http://arteonline.arq.br/magic_walls/
>> http://arteonline.arq.br/eva/
>> http://arteonline.arq.br/ducks/
>>
>>
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