Net Art documentation

It sounds like something I would like to see when it is done.

At the risk of stating the obvious, the first place I would start is with Rachel Greene's recent book: "Internet Art". It's the first of it's kind, and super thorough.

I have some other thoughts, but I am not clear about what you mean by "the boundaries (or no :) between net art and the documentation of net art". Specifically, what do you mean by boundaries?

Jason Van Anden
www.smileproject.com

Hi Jason,
I appreciate the term’s abrupt, perhaps even contradictory. I have used it here to describe the area where the issues of a how a text is read, would be important for its (mis)understanding by a reader.

Thanks

Daniel


Jason Van Anden wrote:

> It sounds like something I would like to see when it is done.
>
> At the risk of stating the obvious, the first place I would start is
> with Rachel Greene's recent book: "Internet Art". It's the first of
> it's kind, and super thorough.
>
> I have some other thoughts, but I am not clear about what you mean by
> "the boundaries (or no :) between net art and the documentation of net
> art". Specifically, what do you mean by boundaries?
>
> Jason Van Anden
> www.smileproject.com

I am still confused. Are you planning to make visual art that explores these boundaries, or write a paper that presents the state of net art documentation?

The former puts you in good company (check out the Artbase) - the latter sounds like an interesting read.

Jason Van Anden
www.smileproject.com

On Thursday, Jul 15, 2004, at 04:50 America/New_York, Daniel Pearce
wrote:
> but I don’t really want to produce a static text documenting my
> research.

If you are documenting net art, have you considered something a la
www.wikipedia.org ?


/ l i z a

Daniel wrote:
>I‚Aod be really grateful if anyone could point me in the direction of
>artworks/practitioners/critical writings that explore this theme?

criticalartware is perhaps not so much capital N net capital A art oriented but moore about lowercase a artware (which of course crosses paths w/the category of Net Art) ++ capital V video captial A art. criticalartware positions [software-as-art/art-as-software] + comments on the early moments of Video Art + artware. goto:

http://www.criticalartware.net

+ create a [new person node/login] for yourself.

the criticalartware [application/platform] is free (as in no fees) + open (as in encourages collaborative participation).

> Given the area of my research I thought it would be more rewarding to
>produce an artwork that explored the intertextual boundaries between
>net art and documentation.

criticalartware is deeply invested in + engaged by this approach + have foregrounded this concern in our activities. criticalartware's shared resources are deeply interconnected + intertextual. liken, the that underlies criticalartware, functions as an artware + substructure, growing based on open participation by anyone who contributes to criticalartware. liken's [form/structure/body] is [a/an] [product/agent] of criticalartware's resources growing symbiotically with collaborative texts (likis), comments + the posting of nodes. in a recent discussion on the empyre listserv where we (criticalartware) were the guests for the month of May bensyverson (a coreDeveloper of criticalartware, the creator of liken + the author of the liki system) wrote: "one unique aspect of liken is that anything posted is autolinked, both retroactively and forevermore. So when we post a historical document, it is not merely [archived/preserved/linked-to]; it becomes a dynamic portal, an ever-changing linguistic map." data.src: Subject: Re: [-empyre-] archiving + preservation To: soft_skinned_space <[email protected]> From: ben syverson <[email protected]> Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 17:09:20 -0500 the empyre conversation for the month of May can be accessed [in/on] liken @ savegame 648: http://www.criticalartware.net [+/or] the empyre archive: http://lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au/pipermail/empyre/2004-May/date.html / l i z a wrote: >If you are documenting net art, have you considered something a la >www.wikipedia.org ? i have posted sum of these bits here + elseware but they apply here again… //begin re-(x)-post bits when we developed liken, the new substructure of criticalartware, bensyverson took the Wiki concept + built a different approach called Likis. ben improved upon the Wiki concept w/Likis by creating a more automagical system for authoring [links/paths] through the growing network of shared resources that are available [in/on] criticalartware. "So what is a Liki? Likis are kind of like wikis; anyone can edit them, and they are highly interlinked with each other. Likis are different than Wiki s in that you don't have to use BumpyCaps to make a link – if you write 'cybernetics is k-rad' in a Liki , it will automagically link to the cybernetics liki. Why is that important? Because it means you don't have to consciously make links! You can just write, and the links will appear. " … "Furthermore, although only an editable document in Liken is called a Liki, any normal non-editable comment that you make on a node will be 'likified;' its text will automatically link up to likis." - bensyverson (coreDeveloper of criticalartware, creator of liken + author of likis) from: savegame 148 <—! CUT-N-PASTE !—> "liken stores criticalartware's growing database of information, resources + discourse as a collection of self-connecting nodes that anyone can add to [+/or] comment on. the pathways connecting these nodes slowly change based on use; more popular paths grow stronger, while weaker paths fade away. these relationships are also described in a public XML file, making it possible for anyone to develop alternate [interfaces/interpretations] of liken's unique + ever-changing content + structure. the paths that liken users follow can be [stored/reviewed/discussed], + affect the structure of the [application/platform] itself, creating a [literal/cybernetic] feedback loop in which less-used paths wither away, well-used paths are strengthened, + entirely new paths grow + crisscross recursively in response to discussion + new resources." -coreDevelopers of criticalartware from: Subject: criticalartware_Version.3.1415926535 <—! CUT-N-PASTE !—> the best way to understand criticalartware as an [artware/application/platform] is by becoming involved. create a login + begin [contributing to/shaping] the shared resources of: http://www.criticalartware.net //end re-(x)-post bits data.src: //jonCates -> criticalartware -> core.dvr http://www.criticalartware.net <–! NOT FOR DISTRIBUTION EXCEPT ON RHIZOME.ORG WEBSITE AND EMAIL LISTS. !—>