Sure am glad we have 'free speech' in the USA

> Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: Sure am glad we have 'free speech' in the USA
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> ps. fuck George Bush (all of them)
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Be my guest … http://aor.shon.org/

actually, they probably signed a written contract to abide by the
policies of the organization from which they were fired… it is always
been possible to sign away all your rights via commercial law.


joseph


t.whid wrote:

> http://www.boston.com/dailynews/113/nation/
> Woman_fired_by_military_contra:.shtml
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> yes, sure is nice to know we don't have GOVERNMENT censorship here in
> the good ole USA, makes me proud to live in the 'land of the free'
>
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On Apr 26, 2004, at 11:19 AM, Joseph The Barbarian wrote:

> actually, they probably signed a written contract to abide by the
> policies of the organization from which they were fired… it is
> always been possible to sign away all your rights via commercial law.


Hi Joe,

well, that's true and not true. You can sign away SOME rights, but not
others. For example, even if I had a contract with you that allowed you
to kill me if I didn't uphold my end of the contract you would still be
tried for murder if you killed me.


otherwise, they did break policies which their employer had in place.
They were not fired until the pentagon complained to their employer
(the pentagon being the employers main contractor I'll bet).

more broadly, I'm sick of civil rights abuses being fig-leafed behind
contracts, EULAs and etc.


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> joseph
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> t.whid wrote:
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>> http://www.boston.com/dailynews/113/nation/
>> Woman_fired_by_military_contra:.shtml
>>
>> yes, sure is nice to know we don't have GOVERNMENT censorship here in
>> the good ole USA, makes me proud to live in the 'land of the free'
>>
>> ps. fuck George Bush (all of them)
>>
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Tim Whidden
Wavexpress, Inc.
phone: 917-339-9043

well, your right, unlawful activity cannot be signed into contracts. But
many constitutional rights can be given way through contracts and
commercial laws… this is why many of the large
corporations/politicians actually try to sneak intellectual property
laws through as commercial laws.

And yes, I am sick of the abuses as well.

joseph


t.whid wrote:

>
> On Apr 26, 2004, at 11:19 AM, Joseph The Barbarian wrote:
>
>> actually, they probably signed a written contract to abide by the
>> policies of the organization from which they were fired… it is
>> always been possible to sign away all your rights via commercial law.
>
>
>
> Hi Joe,
>
> well, that's true and not true. You can sign away SOME rights, but not
> others. For example, even if I had a contract with you that allowed
> you to kill me if I didn't uphold my end of the contract you would
> still be tried for murder if you killed me.
>
>
> otherwise, they did break policies which their employer had in place.
> They were not fired until the pentagon complained to their employer
> (the pentagon being the employers main contractor I'll bet).
>
> more broadly, I'm sick of civil rights abuses being fig-leafed behind
> contracts, EULAs and etc.
>
>
>>
>>
>> joseph
>>
>>
>> t.whid wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.boston.com/dailynews/113/nation/
>>> Woman_fired_by_military_contra:.shtml
>>>
>>> yes, sure is nice to know we don't have GOVERNMENT censorship here
>>> in the good ole USA, makes me proud to live in the 'land of the free'
>>>
>>> ps. fuck George Bush (all of them)
>>>
>>> ===
>>> <twhid>http://www.mteww.com</twhid>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> +
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