Cliche-Clash

Posted by Stephan Hausmeister | Sun Jul 13th 2003 8:15 a.m.

  • Michael Szpakowski | Sun Jul 13th 2003 8:57 a.m.
    I'm not sure how this piece illuminates anything.
    To be sure Berlusconi is a right wing coporate boot
    boy
    but a fascist in the technical sense of the term?
    (and precision *does* matter here). No.
    Schroeder is a right wing social democrat and clearly
    not a friend of the working class ( although he does
    have the merit of having infuriated Bush )
    but people like Schroeder were packed off to
    concentration camps almost immediately after Hitler's
    accession to power.
    I'm not normally a proponent of the political
    deconstruction of pieces but this seems to me to be a
    piece of political work or nothing and its politics
    are vague and confusing.
    Fascism *is* unfortunately a threat once more and we
    can't afford to be complacent but neither can we
    afford to muddy the waters.
    michael
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  • Eryk Salvaggio | Sun Jul 13th 2003 10:44 a.m.
    If this piece is comparing B+S to M+H then yeah, I don't know what they have
    in common other than currently leading the nations that M+H used to run.
    This is totally z-grade political commentary and I am surprised you even
    bothered to comment on it. I've seen it said that allusions to Hitler
    *always* cheapen political discourse, and that is entirely what this "piece"
    (I would hesitate to call it that) is: cheap.

    -e.

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    From: "Michael Szpakowski" <szpako@yahoo.com>
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    Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Cliche-Clash

    > I'm not sure how this piece illuminates anything.
    > To be sure Berlusconi is a right wing coporate boot
    > boy
    > but a fascist in the technical sense of the term?
    > (and precision *does* matter here). No.
    > Schroeder is a right wing social democrat and clearly
    > not a friend of the working class ( although he does
    > have the merit of having infuriated Bush )
    > but people like Schroeder were packed off to
    > concentration camps almost immediately after Hitler's
    > accession to power.
    > I'm not normally a proponent of the political
    > deconstruction of pieces but this seems to me to be a
    > piece of political work or nothing and its politics
    > are vague and confusing.
    > Fascism *is* unfortunately a threat once more and we
    > can't afford to be complacent but neither can we
    > afford to muddy the waters.
    > michael
    > --- Stephan Hausmeister <stephan@angelus.demon.co.uk>
    > wrote:
    > >
    > > http://www.berlusmuscolinischroeder.fsnet.co.uk
    > > + ti esrever dna ti pilf nwod gniht ym tup
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    > East of Wind. Phillips, Gordon. A painting.
    > Song of the Chorrito of Lewis Lacook. It is a strange song.
    > Woodland of Teratology. Does Bruce Conkle study the legend of Sasquatch?
    > Finally the young Salvaggio d'Eryk - a surrealista world where George
    Washington, a fox and a hen, a MUSE, fight in imaginary loneliness - a game.
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