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From: "marc.garrett" <firstname.lastname@example.org
To: "Michael Szpakowski" <email@example.com
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 6:19 PM
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: Re: RHIZOME_RARE: Re: Rhizome @ DEAF03
> I agree,
> Obviously Net Art Clique circles do not reside on the list here...it has
> been pre-ordianed it seems - not open for discussion. May be the list
> are just income-based space fillers, and not necessarily people that the
> Rhizome gang wish to explore new opportunities with. I think that this is
> quite obvious really...
> Even if we are based in Europe, and could offer strong links and
> ideas/funding regarding such ventures. The reality is, that it is much
> to do with institutional connections rather than bottom up creativity.
> Therefore those who are pretty good at getting imaginative things going
> do not have the immediate institutional clout will be left on the
> side-lines, sounds familiar? Or grudgingly taken into the fold because
> are a pain the ass as a niggling enemy.
> To be honest, Michael - there are other ventures that are
> happening/formulating right now that we ourselves are involved in, and we
> not isolate anyone - whatever their backgrounds or connections. People are
> always under the deluded impression that if someone has the connections
> they will be useful - not always true. We are more interested in
> compassionate, explorative individuals and what they can offer on their
> terms with their own directed energy, this opens up avenues to make
> things happen. The beauty of creating something special is that there is
> real love generosity involved and not just connection based concepts. That
> is what makes things work - people will learn this sooner or later, to
> a good working relationship with others is not just by curriculum based
> snobism. We have a group right now in the UK who are getting together to
> form somethiing that people can truly feel part of, and it will
> significantly challenge insitutional 'default divide and rule'
> If you really want to change things, you start with people - not academics
> alone. People are the source and the reason to do anything worthwhile.
> topple this cynical rome!
> daring to want a less isolationist world...
> > <We are particularly
> > > interested in
> > > discussing the potential emergence of a Rhizome node
> > > or offshoot in Europe.>
> > Hmmm -I think I know what you mean Mark, but for those
> > of us in old Europe who've been enthusiastic
> > participants in both list and artbase for a good while
> > it might have been put perhaps a little more
> > diplomatically - it would be nice to have a discussion
> > about it on the list, or a set of proposals/thoughts
> > on the site, for those of us whom work or cash
> > precludes 'being in the Rotterdam hood'
> > best
> > Michael
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