Re: google

Posted by christopher otto | Mon Dec 9th 2002 1 a.m.

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bigup to jack+ginger!

googles project is nice i enjoy it. i care what is there as it is "everything" coming through google which is a nice framing. it is more interesting to me than the favorite numbers project as the frame of "everything" is often viable and interesting.

what i find missing in the personal rocknroll art rhetoric is a comprehension of the medium. googles project is cool since it is so banal it just is searches. i think personal net art dialogues often assume that there is nothing inherently wrong with the medium, ie that code is a materialistic, production oriented, military language. using more traditional means does not break OUT of it, but confines artistic or seductive lines to the military aesthetic.

in a similar way i find adbusters/BLF work dissapointing. what is detrimental in ad copy is the narrowcasting of language to taglines, and the reductivism. it is similar to deborah tannen's ideas on genderlects - copy is like a "capitalect" that pervades thought. subverting while using the same "capitalect" is still being trapped.

to me a good vibe to follow is the intro to thousand plateaus in terms of creating horizons or tangents out of rational systems. thats what i thought was interesting and funny in valery's self-portrait and why i responded with my "other portrait".

but anyways i am at work and sort of meandering.

chris otto
  • D42 Kandinskij | Mon Dec 9th 2002 1 a.m.
    On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Christopher Otto wrote:

    > in a similar way i find adbusters/BLF work dissapointing. what is detrimental in ad copy is the narrowcasting of language to taglines, and the reductivism. it is similar to deborah tannen's ideas on genderlects - copy is like a "capitalect" that pervades thought. subverting while using the same "capitalect" is still being trapped.

    'subverting' is still being trapped
    perpetuation of the illusion of some agent
    'from outside' which prevents a 'perceived'
    freedom

    there is nothing to 'subvert' besides oneself
    + one's own delusions

    tak.

    + no-one can subvert another's delusion
    one canonly assist active conscious humans seeking
    'assistance' to deal with such
  • neuston | Mon May 24th 2004 12:33 p.m.
    I wonder, If I could input my own words for searching, that would be great.

    Meggan wrote:

    > The google series is an exploration of how we interact with, search
    > for, define, and integrate imagery into internet space. The google
    > search engine has become a cultural icon in itself, a verb... and so I
    > use it to flesh out icons, canonic cultural imagery, to explore the
    > interplay between text and image. I have written a program that
    > averages the first 60 results of a google image search--most images
    > emerge as a hopeless jumble of pixels, but
    > an elusive category retains a certain degree of clarity. All change
    > over time,
    > shifting in the space between links and clicks.
  • Meggan Gould | Tue May 25th 2004 2:24 p.m.
    that is how I have it functioning on the local level--anyone can enter anything and it comes up with the average, while showing you a sort of slideshow of all of the results, but next phase is certainly to make that happen online....

    neuston wrote:

    > I wonder, If I could input my own words for searching, that would be
    > great.
    >
    >
    > Meggan wrote:
    >
    > > The google series is an exploration of how we interact with, search
    > > for, define, and integrate imagery into internet space. The google
    > > search engine has become a cultural icon in itself, a verb... and so
    > I
    > > use it to flesh out icons, canonic cultural imagery, to explore the
    > > interplay between text and image. I have written a program that
    > > averages the first 60 results of a google image search--most images
    > > emerge as a hopeless jumble of pixels, but
    > > an elusive category retains a certain degree of clarity. All change
    > > over time,
    > > shifting in the space between links and clicks.
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