new work

Posted by wowm .org | Sun Jun 23rd 2002 1 a.m.

Is this a picture?"

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lisa, any comments?!
  • Michael Szpakowski | Wed Sep 25th 2002 1 a.m.
    A little chamber piece:

    http://www.somedancersandmusicians.com/for/ForJanet.html

    make sure your sound is on.
    best
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  • Michael Szpakowski | Thu Sep 26th 2002 1 a.m.
    Hi
    if anyone out there did check the below and heeded my
    advice to <make sure your sound is on.> they probably
    thought I was mad. Sorry .It's now fixed. I think .
    Michael
    --- Michael Szpakowski <szpako@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > A little chamber piece:
    >
    >
    http://www.somedancersandmusicians.com/for/ForJanet.html
    >
    > make sure your sound is on.
    > best
    > Michael
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  • Pall Thayer | Mon Sep 30th 2002 1 a.m.
    Hi all,

    I appoligize for any multiple postings.

    That said, I've got a new project out that's in a sort of beta testing stage. It's called "Looking for the new universal harmony" and can be found at http://130.208.220.190/nuharm/

    Pall Thayer
  • Pall Thayer | Mon Sep 30th 2002 1 a.m.
    Hi all,
    I've got a new project I'm sort of beta testing. It's called "Looking for t=
    he new universal harmony" and can be found at http://130.208.220.190/nuharm=
    /

    Pall Thayer
  • august highland | Mon Sep 30th 2002 1 a.m.
    more wonderful work pall! - always a marvellous experience whenever i visit
    your projects!
    cheers,
    augie
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  • Michael Szpakowski | Thu Oct 31st 2002 1 a.m.
    google automatic translation as an aid to creative
    writing, a 'six rules' compliant piece:

    http://www.somedancersandmusicians.com/g/intro.html

    michael

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  • Jess Loseby | Wed Nov 27th 2002 1 a.m.
    new work (revamped and removed from dodgy server)
    making liberal use of free scripts for the codingly-challenged
    http://www.rssgallery.com/GSP/forrest.htm

    "i have my fears so they do not have me" Peter Gabriel
    htm, freebie scripts and flash 6

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  • Michael Szpakowski | Wed Apr 23rd 2003 7:41 p.m.
    New work:
    http://www.somedancersandmusicians.com/short_story/short_story.html

    Sound essential.
    Janet says it's Proustian, "but not in a good way".
    Comments, technical or aesthetic, welcome.
    michael

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  • Michael Szpakowski | Wed Apr 30th 2003 7:04 p.m.
    http://www.somedancersandmusicians.com/diary/diary.html
    Sound essential.
    best
    michael

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  • doron golan | Fri Aug 1st 2003 6:06 p.m.
    the 9th >
    (please allow one min. download time)

    http://www.the9th.com/

    sincerely,

    doron golan
    computerfinearts.com
  • Michael Szpakowski | Thu Aug 28th 2003 8:55 p.m.
    Made as thank you note for two CDs of quite
    extraordinary & beautiful Brazilian music

    http://www.somedancersandmusicians.com/bouquet/A_Bouquet_for_Regina_Celia_Pinto.html

    requires sound and a certain degree of patience
    especially on a dial up.

    michael

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  • Regina Pinto | Fri Aug 29th 2003 8:35 a.m.
    Hello Michael,

    One of my favorite authors is the french anthropologist Marcel Mauss and my
    favorite book of him is "The Gift: The Form and Reason for Exchange in
    Archaic Societies"

    The Gift is Marcel Mauss's groundbreaking study of the relation between
    forms of exchange and social structure. A brilliant French sociologist and
    anthropologist, Mauss (1872-1950) used case studies of Melanesia, Polynesia,
    and northwestern North America to demonstrate that gift exchange is a total
    system at the center of society.

    I like very much to give gifts (perhaps because of this book, perhaps I
    like to show my culture...) and you with your touching and very beautiful
    and sensitive work / gift dedicated to me, makes me feel I am sure. I would
    like to be able to send brazilian music to all rhizomes.

    Many thanks again,

    Regina

    PS: The Museum of the Essential and Beyond That at http://arteonline.arq.br
    will show lots of news next month, including a new floor. The bathroom(s)
    are almost ready and they will be a lot of fun to you. Do not forget (all of
    you, rhizomes) that the dead line to send us an "artistic recipe from your
    region of the Earth" to our restaurants will be october, 10th.

    > Made as thank you note for two CDs of quite
    > extraordinary & beautiful Brazilian music
    >
    >
    http://www.somedancersandmusicians.com/bouquet/A_Bouquet_for_Regina_Celia_Pi
    nto.html
    >
    > requires sound and a certain degree of patience
    > especially on a dial up.
    >
    > michael
    >
    >
  • Michael Szpakowski | Sun Sep 7th 2003 7:33 p.m.
    Scroll:

    http://www.somedancersandmusicians.com/scroll/scroll.html

    requires sound.
    best
    michael

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  • Regina Pinto | Mon Sep 8th 2003 7:55 a.m.
    Hello Michael,

    I liked very much this work, high lights for me: greyscale and horizontal
    scroolbar as part of the art work.

    The greyscale give to design an expressionist aspect. I love to work with
    greyscale too, my first ebook - "The white and the black, reflections on
    fog" (http://arteonline.arq.br/library.htm) was done in greyscale and I am
    always thinking about to do another work using greyscale.

    To work with scroolbars give suspense to the art work, I enjoy it very much.
    I am using vertical scroolbars in my work Paris - Rio de Janeiro Gallery
    (http://arteonline.arq.br)

    Warmest regards,

    Regina

    >
    > Scroll:
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    > requires sound.
    > best
    > michael
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  • Yvonne | Thu Sep 25th 2003 5:59 a.m.
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  • Pall Thayer | Sun Mar 21st 2004 6:15 p.m.
  • Patrick Simons | Fri May 14th 2004 5:53 a.m.
    http://www.gloriousninth.com/flaming.html

    Glorious Ninth
    Flaming (our/your/their rage) 2004

    All debate about ownership and empowerment, democracy and accountability, long term perspectives and global, environmental issues are trodden underfoot and a chilling efficiency in dehumanising whole societies and populations, is allowed to remove any possibility of debate and empathic shared existence with those about to die.

    Flaming (our/your/their rage) is a release of anger and frustration against the powerful. Power and rage smashes a country already suffering. A lack of power to control everything provokes this rage. Artist, activist, freedom fighter, terrorist - where do our liberal values start and stop? Rage of the new yorkers, rage of america as they experienced violation. Rage at our collective lack of insight and our/your/their crouched/couched response. Rage that they/you/we want revenge. Rage at the twittery of politicians, their sell-out, and our stupidity to think they might be something they could be. Rage at our own hypocrisy. Rage at the defeat of the left, and at the utter abandonment of real hope. Rage at the inadequacies of intellectual arguments. Rage that there isn't an easy answer. Rage that it’s complex and there's not enough time in a life-time. Rage that there's no serious debate about what we actually want and about how it can be achieved and about how we understand the world.

    What is dished out from our representatives is simplistic, fundamentalist medieval crap. How can it be that I am either with you or against you? How can the means justify the ends justify the means? How can there be an axis of evil? How can this axis of evil shift so much that it obliterates ‘allies’ who ‘stood by our side’ so recently. How can this be the path of righteousness and the act of a democratic society when carpet bombing, depleted uranium shells and the full might of the very latest technologies - which we spend so much time discussing in terms of the alienating nature of its inherent logic - is used to incapacitate people/countries/societies in the name of progress and future generations?
  • Michael Szpakowski | Fri May 14th 2004 10:09 a.m.
    For a cry of rage, Patrick, it's extraordinarily,
    viscerally beautiful.
    ( and this is true of the sound too, the intensity of
    which complements the visuals wonderfully)
    There's a real intentionality problem for me with
    yours and Kate's work - I just find it gobsmackingly
    gorgeous.
    best
    michael

    --- Patrick Simons <patricksimons@gloriousninth.com>
    wrote:
    > http://www.gloriousninth.com/flaming.html
    >
    > Glorious Ninth
    > Flaming (our/your/their rage) 2004
    >
    >
    > All debate about ownership and empowerment,
    > democracy and accountability, long term perspectives
    > and global, environmental issues are trodden
    > underfoot and a chilling efficiency in dehumanising
    > whole societies and populations, is allowed to
    > remove any possibility of debate and empathic shared
    > existence with those about to die.
    >
    > Flaming (our/your/their rage) is a release of anger
    > and frustration against the powerful. Power and rage
    > smashes a country already suffering. A lack of
    > power to control everything provokes this rage.
    > Artist, activist, freedom fighter, terrorist - where
    > do our liberal values start and stop? Rage of the
    > new yorkers, rage of america as they experienced
    > violation. Rage at our collective lack of insight
    > and our/your/their crouched/couched response. Rage
    > that they/you/we want revenge. Rage at the twittery
    > of politicians, their sell-out, and our stupidity to
    > think they might be something they could be. Rage
    > at our own hypocrisy. Rage at the defeat of the
    > left, and at the utter abandonment of real hope.
    > Rage at the inadequacies of intellectual arguments.
    > Rage that there isn't an easy answer. Rage that
    > it’s complex and there's not enough time in a
    > life-time. Rage that there's no serious debate about
    > what we actually want and about how it can be
    > achieved and about how we understan!
    > d the world.
    >
    >
    > What is dished out from our representatives is
    > simplistic, fundamentalist medieval crap. How can it
    > be that I am either with you or against you? How can
    > the means justify the ends justify the means? How
    > can there be an axis of evil? How can this axis of
    > evil shift so much that it obliterates ‘allies’
    > who ‘stood by our side’ so recently. How can
    > this be the path of righteousness and the act of a
    > democratic society when carpet bombing, depleted
    > uranium shells and the full might of the very latest
    > technologies - which we spend so much time
    > discussing in terms of the alienating nature of its
    > inherent logic - is used to incapacitate
    > people/countries/societies in the name of progress
    > and future generations?
    >
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  • void void | Fri May 14th 2004 1:39 p.m.
    All political manifestations no matter how selfless are based on a basic form of fascism... trying to control other people's behavior, which is impossible. Certain sociological norms are agreed upon in groups. yet, one can't control another's behavior. the futility of this is manifest in reactive rage.
    this is a physically violent universe, that only stays in existence with the balance of passivity.
    once one realizes this most emotional extremes become comical.

    can rage be droll?

    did I say that out LOUD?
    AE 04.
  • Kate Southworth | Tue May 18th 2004 2:30 a.m.
    Hi Michael

    Thank you for your interest in our work, and for your comments.

    I'm really interested in what you're saying, but not quite clear exactly
    what you mean. Are you saying that because you find the work beautiful then
    it can't adequately express emotion?

    And 'beautiful' is quite a complex concept surely - one that changes its
    meaning through time, just as 'art' and 'creativity', for example, change
    their meaning.

    I know you fairly well Michael, so would be surprised if you were advocated
    a kind of illustrative response to war. I've played the piece a few times
    since your post, and the more I look at it, the more I understand my own
    response to the war. It is response that draws on emotion, intuition,
    analysis, sensations, and relates, like all our work tries to, to the
    constant changes and interactions, processes and relations that make up our
    world.

    Intentionality of the artist is something I am becoming increasingly
    interested in, and it seems to be quite a contested area amongst art
    historians. A real understanding of the implications of the different
    positions regarding intentionality seems to me to be critically important
    right now, because so many of the processes, tools, methods etc. that
    artists use are being increasingly incorporated.

    So, I'm open to any ideas whatsoever regarding intentionality.

    kindest regards
    Kate

    5/14/04 17:09Michael Szpakowskiszpako@yahoo.com

    > For a cry of rage, Patrick, it's extraordinarily,
    > viscerally beautiful.
    > ( and this is true of the sound too, the intensity of
    > which complements the visuals wonderfully)
    > There's a real intentionality problem for me with
    > yours and Kate's work - I just find it gobsmackingly
    > gorgeous.
    > best
    > michael
    >
    > --- Patrick Simons <patricksimons@gloriousninth.com>
    > wrote:
    >> http://www.gloriousninth.com/flaming.html
    >>
    >> Glorious Ninth
    >> Flaming (our/your/their rage) 2004
    >>
    >>
    >> All debate about ownership and empowerment,
    >> democracy and accountability, long term perspectives
    >> and global, environmental issues are trodden
    >> underfoot and a chilling efficiency in dehumanising
    >> whole societies and populations, is allowed to
    >> remove any possibility of debate and empathic shared
    >> existence with those about to die.
    >>
    >> Flaming (our/your/their rage) is a release of anger
    >> and frustration against the powerful. Power and rage
    >> smashes a country already suffering. A lack of
    >> power to control everything provokes this rage.
    >> Artist, activist, freedom fighter, terrorist - where
    >> do our liberal values start and stop? Rage of the
    >> new yorkers, rage of america as they experienced
    >> violation. Rage at our collective lack of insight
    >> and our/your/their crouched/couched response. Rage
    >> that they/you/we want revenge. Rage at the twittery
    >> of politicians, their sell-out, and our stupidity to
    >> think they might be something they could be. Rage
    >> at our own hypocrisy. Rage at the defeat of the
    >> left, and at the utter abandonment of real hope.
    >> Rage at the inadequacies of intellectual arguments.
    >> Rage that there isn't an easy answer. Rage that
    >> it???s complex and there's not enough time in a
    >> life-time. Rage that there's no serious debate about
    >> what we actually want and about how it can be
    >> achieved and about how we understan!
    >> d the world.
    >>
    >>
    >> What is dished out from our representatives is
    >> simplistic, fundamentalist medieval crap. How can it
    >> be that I am either with you or against you? How can
    >> the means justify the ends justify the means? How
    >> can there be an axis of evil? How can this axis of
    >> evil shift so much that it obliterates ???allies???
    >> who ???stood by our side??? so recently. How can
    >> this be the path of righteousness and the act of a
    >> democratic society when carpet bombing, depleted
    >> uranium shells and the full might of the very latest
    >> technologies - which we spend so much time
    >> discussing in terms of the alienating nature of its
    >> inherent logic - is used to incapacitate
    >> people/countries/societies in the name of progress
    >> and future generations?
    >>
    >> +
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  • Michael Szpakowski | Tue May 18th 2004 3:37 a.m.
    Kate,Patrick,lists
    < Are you saying that because you find
    the work beautiful then
    it can't adequately express emotion?>
    Absolutely not! The emotion I tend to experience on
    looking at quite a lot of your work I suppose I could
    characterize as something near to joy -I find it
    exhilarating, this piece particularly so.
    Its to do with both the look and the manner of
    unfolding of each piece.
    Maybe its a kind of aesthetic joy in that I'm
    responding to the enormously satisfying formal
    attributes of each work first and foremost

    < 'beautiful' is quite a complex concept surely ->
    one that changes its
    meaning through time,>
    well ---yes--ok but for me subjectively I *know*
    whether something is or isn't beautiful -its a bit
    Wittgensteininan this isn't it- like I *know* when I'm
    in pain.
    < I know you fairly well Michael, so would be
    surprised if you were advocated
    a kind of illustrative response to war. >
    I don't advocate or not advocate.
    In *my* work my unconscious and my conscience
    determines whether a piece is finished/satisfactory
    -in the work of others its a combination of my inital
    affective and subsequent intellectual response to the
    complex of factors going on in any particular work
    that leads me to find a work satisfactory ,
    unsatisfactory or problematic.
    "If This is a Man" is *the* 20th century work about
    the depths barbarism -& one could say that it is
    entirely illustrative -there are other works , made in
    the same period that eschew direct description
    partially or completely -the surrealists, a little bit
    earlier, spring to mind. 'Guernica' although
    illustrative is a halfway house. The place for the
    beautiful for me is as a kind of counter example, it
    offers us a kind of utopian possibility, plus that
    hope that human intervention in the world *as art*
    brings me anyway.
    I entirely accept that its possible to view your piece
    as a response to the current sitatuion and hence to
    war in general and lots of other related topics -I
    think that what bothers me is your attempt to direct
    us there in the accompanying atatement -I find these
    things a closing off of meaning -I think I'm in favour
    of a division of labour between artist and
    viewer/critic -artist makes and critic/viewer
    interprets/responds -I don't feel puritanical about it
    though -I think its perfectly reasonable, for example,
    for us to benefit from an interview with an artist
    about her intentions in a particular work or group of
    works.( see the interesting discussion on Rhizome
    initiated by Curt Cloninger a bit back)
    SO -intentionality.. I'm totally unconvinced that the
    makers of the most interesting works of art either can
    or should try and delineate what those works are
    about, what those works contain -why? because the best
    art, it seems to me, is a dialogue between the
    artist's unconscious ( and I don't just mean a
    freudian unconscious but one that contains all sorts
    of social/political/historical/cultural debris from
    the artist's life in the world) and that wider world ,
    mediated thorugh the ability to urgently engage us
    through the conscious patterning of the raw material
    by the exercise of a high degree of craft.
    Ultimately I think we make our boats and set them sail
    on the water without a fixed itinerary - they might
    reach ports of call we never dreamed of.
    warmest
    michael
    --- Kate Southworth <katesouthworth@gloriousninth.com>
    wrote:
    > Hi Michael
    >
    > Thank you for your interest in our work, and for
    > your comments.
    >
    > I'm really interested in what you're saying, but not
    > quite clear exactly
    > what you mean. Are you saying that because you find
    > the work beautiful then
    > it can't adequately express emotion?
    >
    > And 'beautiful' is quite a complex concept surely -
    > one that changes its
    > meaning through time, just as 'art' and
    > 'creativity', for example, change
    > their meaning.
    >
    > I know you fairly well Michael, so would be
    > surprised if you were advocated
    > a kind of illustrative response to war. I've played
    > the piece a few times
    > since your post, and the more I look at it, the more
    > I understand my own
    > response to the war. It is response that draws on
    > emotion, intuition,
    > analysis, sensations, and relates, like all our work
    > tries to, to the
    > constant changes and interactions, processes and
    > relations that make up our
    > world.
    >
    > Intentionality of the artist is something I am
    > becoming increasingly
    > interested in, and it seems to be quite a contested
    > area amongst art
    > historians. A real understanding of the
    > implications of the different
    > positions regarding intentionality seems to me to be
    > critically important
    > right now, because so many of the processes, tools,
    > methods etc. that
    > artists use are being increasingly incorporated.
    >
    > So, I'm open to any ideas whatsoever regarding
    > intentionality.
    >
    > kindest regards
    > Kate
    >
    >
    >
    > 5/14/04 17:09Michael Szpakowskiszpako@yahoo.com
    >
    > > For a cry of rage, Patrick, it's extraordinarily,
    > > viscerally beautiful.
    > > ( and this is true of the sound too, the intensity
    > of
    > > which complements the visuals wonderfully)
    > > There's a real intentionality problem for me with
    > > yours and Kate's work - I just find it
    > gobsmackingly
    > > gorgeous.
    > > best
    > > michael
    > >
    > > --- Patrick Simons
    > <patricksimons@gloriousninth.com>
    > > wrote:
    > >> http://www.gloriousninth.com/flaming.html
    > >>
    > >> Glorious Ninth
    > >> Flaming (our/your/their rage) 2004
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> All debate about ownership and empowerment,
    > >> democracy and accountability, long term
    > perspectives
    > >> and global, environmental issues are trodden
    > >> underfoot and a chilling efficiency in
    > dehumanising
    > >> whole societies and populations, is allowed to
    > >> remove any possibility of debate and empathic
    > shared
    > >> existence with those about to die.
    > >>
    > >> Flaming (our/your/their rage) is a release of
    > anger
    > >> and frustration against the powerful. Power and
    > rage
    > >> smashes a country already suffering. A lack of
    > >> power to control everything provokes this rage.
    > >> Artist, activist, freedom fighter, terrorist -
    > where
    > >> do our liberal values start and stop? Rage of the
    > >> new yorkers, rage of america as they experienced
    > >> violation. Rage at our collective lack of insight
    > >> and our/your/their crouched/couched response.
    > Rage
    > >> that they/you/we want revenge. Rage at the
    > twittery
    > >> of politicians, their sell-out, and our stupidity
    > to
    > >> think they might be something they could be.
    > Rage
    > >> at our own hypocrisy. Rage at the defeat of the
    > >> left, and at the utter abandonment of real hope.
    > >> Rage at the inadequacies of intellectual
    > arguments.
    > >> Rage that there isn't an easy answer. Rage that
    > >> it???s complex and there's not enough time in a
    > >> life-time. Rage that there's no serious debate
    > about
    > >> what we actually want and about how it can be
    > >> achieved and about how we understan!
    > >> d the world.
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> What is dished out from our representatives is
    > >> simplistic, fundamentalist medieval crap. How can
    > it
    > >> be that I am either with you or against you? How
    > can
    > >> the means justify the ends justify the means? How
    > >> can there be an axis of evil? How can this axis
    > of
    > >> evil shift so much that it obliterates
    > ???allies???
    > >> who ???stood by our side??? so recently. How can
    > >> this be the path of righteousness and the act of
    > a
    > >> democratic society when carpet bombing, depleted
    > >> uranium shells and the full might of the very
    > latest
    > >> technologies - which we spend so much time
    > >> discussing in terms of the alienating nature of
    > its
    > >> inherent logic - is used to incapacitate
    > >> people/countries/societies in the name of
    > progress
    > >> and future generations?
    > >>
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  • Rob Myers | Tue May 18th 2004 4:10 a.m.
    On Tuesday, May 18, 2004, at 09:29AM, Kate Southworth <katesouthworth@gloriousninth.com> wrote:

    >And 'beautiful' is quite a complex concept surely - one that changes its
    >meaning through time, just as 'art' and 'creativity', for example, change
    >their meaning.

    As are and do all concepts if one examines them. :-)

    >So, I'm open to any ideas whatsoever regarding intentionality.

    I'd recommend Adorno's writing on commited art and commitment. I think some is in "Art in Theory", I can't find anything useful with a quick web search.

    - Rob.
  • Kate Southworth | Tue May 18th 2004 9:06 a.m.
    Rob Myers wrote:

    > On Tuesday, May 18, 2004, at 09:29AM, Kate Southworth
    > <katesouthworth@gloriousninth.com> wrote:
    >
    > >And 'beautiful' is quite a complex concept surely - one that changes
    > its
    > >meaning through time, just as 'art' and 'creativity', for example,
    > change
    > >their meaning.
    >
    > As are and do all concepts if one examines them. :-)

    I agree wholeheartedly.
    >
    > >So, I'm open to any ideas whatsoever regarding intentionality.
    >
    > I'd recommend Adorno's writing on commited art and commitment. I think
    > some is in "Art in Theory", I can't find anything useful with a quick
    > web search.
    Many thanks for that Rob.

    Kate

    >
    > - Rob.
  • Michael Szpakowski | Thu Feb 23rd 2006 4:19 a.m.
    Two new short movies:

    Babes in the Wood:

    http://www.somedancersandmusicians.com/vlog/ScenesOfProvincialLife.cgi/2006/02/23

    (1.5MB, 26 sec loop)

    Tales Heard at my Grandfather's Knee

    http://dvblog.org/tales-heard-at-my-grandfathers-knee

    (16MB, 1:35 min)

    both have sound.

    best

    michael
  • Alan Sondheim | Thu Feb 23rd 2006 6:41 a.m.
    Really like these, particularly the 2nd one which is incredibly rich (as
    is the color changing in the first) - my only criticism is the 2nd's
    abrupt ending which seems unresolved (i.e. not as if it implied a further
    unseen continuity) - - Alan

    On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, Michael Szpakowski wrote:

    > Two new short movies:
    >
    > Babes in the Wood:
    >
    > http://www.somedancersandmusicians.com/vlog/ScenesOfProvincialLife.cgi/2006/02/23
    >
    > (1.5MB, 26 sec loop)
    >
    >
    > Tales Heard at my Grandfather's Knee
    >
    > http://dvblog.org/tales-heard-at-my-grandfathers-knee
    >
    > (16MB, 1:35 min)
    >
    > both have sound.
    >
    > best
    >
    > michael
    >
    >
    >
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  • Michael Szpakowski | Thu Feb 23rd 2006 7:55 a.m.
    Hi Alan
    thanks as always - for both the comments & the
    criticism :)
    I'll think about the latter (& that's not just a token
    response - I owe you a big debt & I take your opinion
    very seriously) . I don't know about you but I steer
    with my viscera making these & formally the piece
    *felt* finished - with lots happening at the start
    then a gradually levelling off & the sudden final
    appearance of the person you might guess & would be
    right was my English grandfather.. - on which note of
    course (it's a risky & a problematic M.O perhaps) so
    much of a "private mythology" is embedded in these
    things that the rest of the world might not see it
    even remotely the same way...
    warmest wishes
    michael

    --- Alan Sondheim <sondheim@panix.com> wrote:

    >
    >
    > Really like these, particularly the 2nd one which is
    > incredibly rich (as
    > is the color changing in the first) - my only
    > criticism is the 2nd's
    > abrupt ending which seems unresolved (i.e. not as if
    > it implied a further
    > unseen continuity) - - Alan
    >
    >
    > On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, Michael Szpakowski wrote:
    >
    > > Two new short movies:
    > >
    > > Babes in the Wood:
    > >
    > >
    >
    http://www.somedancersandmusicians.com/vlog/ScenesOfProvincialLife.cgi/2006/02/23
    > >
    > > (1.5MB, 26 sec loop)
    > >
    > >
    > > Tales Heard at my Grandfather's Knee
    > >
    > >
    >
    http://dvblog.org/tales-heard-at-my-grandfathers-knee
    > >
    > > (16MB, 1:35 min)
    > >
    > > both have sound.
    > >
    > > best
    > >
    > > michael
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
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  • Roberto Echen | Tue Jan 22nd 2008 10 a.m.
    I'd like you to check out my last work
    hidden community
    http://www.rechen.com/community
    some of you will find that there are images by your own. These are the
    ones you sent to a former work of mine:
    i_feel_so_uneasy (portrait)
    http://www.rechen.com/portrait
    I hope to have thanked you in due time. If not let me tell you that I
    appreciate your collaboration very much.
    best
    rechen

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