Fwd: Ars Publica - Curatorial Report, March 2007

Posted by Marisa Olson | Wed Apr 4th 2007 1:45 p.m.

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ARS PUBLICA
  • Rob Myers | Wed Apr 4th 2007 2:28 p.m.
    Marisa Olson wrote:
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    > ARS PUBLICA

    ars publica, vita privatim est

    - Rob.
  • Vijay Pattisapu | Thu Apr 5th 2007 11:19 a.m.
    Ars Publica basically is a commentary on the paradox that while art
    constitutes another type of production to be commercialized, the
    financial situation in which most artists encounter themselves, is due
    to a sub-paradox that responds on the one hand to the irrelevant
    socio-economic value generally associated with art; and on the other
    hand with the elitist channels of art commercialization."

    "Sub-paradox"? Eh...

    Vijay

    On 04/04/07, Marisa Olson <marisa@rhizome.org> wrote:
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  • Barry Smylie | Thu Apr 5th 2007 12:27 p.m.
    The paradox is... art has been a trade good since, ahhh... shortly after the
    beginning of human times. Wasn't art one of the first bourgeois enterprises
    to immerge at the end of the "dark ages"?

    Was, like, Rembrandt an art worker for the National Gallery of Holland? And
    dude, like wasn't Durer a teacher at the university or Art College or
    something?

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    To: Marisa Olson
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    "Ars Publica basically is a commentary on the paradox that while art
    constitutes another type of production to be commercialized, the
    financial situation in which most artists encounter themselves, is due
    to a sub-paradox that responds on the one hand to the irrelevant
    socio-economic value generally associated with art; and on the other
    hand with the elitist channels of art commercialization."

    "Sub-paradox"? Eh...

    Vijay

    On 04/04/07, Marisa Olson <marisa@rhizome.org> wrote:
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  • marc garrett | Thu Apr 5th 2007 12:51 p.m.
    Hi Barry & all,

    So what do we define as 'bourgeois enterprises' regarding art now?

    marc

    >The paradox is... art has been a trade good since, ahhh... shortly after the
    >beginning of human times. Wasn't art one of the first bourgeois enterprises
    >to immerge at the end of the "dark ages"?
    >
    >Was, like, Rembrandt an art worker for the National Gallery of Holland? And
    >dude, like wasn't Durer a teacher at the university or Art College or
    >something?
    >
    >
    >
    >-----Original Message-----
    >From: owner-list@rhizome.org [mailto:owner-list@rhizome.org] On Behalf Of
    >Vijay Pattisapu
    >Sent: April 5, 2007 10:29 AM
    >To: Marisa Olson
    >Cc: rhizome
    >Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Fwd: Ars Publica - Curatorial Report, March 2007
    >
    >"Ars Publica basically is a commentary on the paradox that while art
    >constitutes another type of production to be commercialized, the
    >financial situation in which most artists encounter themselves, is due
    > to a sub-paradox that responds on the one hand to the irrelevant
    >socio-economic value generally associated with art; and on the other
    >hand with the elitist channels of art commercialization."
    >
    >"Sub-paradox"? Eh...
    >
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    >Vijay
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    >On 04/04/07, Marisa Olson <marisa@rhizome.org> wrote:
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  • Lee Wells | Thu Apr 5th 2007 1:56 p.m.
    I guess we should count the ways an artist can get by in life and still stay
    as close as possible to ones own vision. Sometimes you have to work the
    field. The artist is the worker, the muse, the sage and the whore.

    > From: marc <marc.garrett@furtherfield.org>
    > Reply-To: marc <marc.garrett@furtherfield.org>
    > Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 17:07:25 +0100
    > To: 'rhizome' <list@rhizome.org>
    > Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Fwd: Ars Publica - Curatorial Report, March 2007
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    > Hi Barry & all,
    >
    > So what do we define as 'bourgeois enterprises' regarding art now?
    >
    > marc
    >
    >> The paradox is... art has been a trade good since, ahhh... shortly after the
    >> beginning of human times. Wasn't art one of the first bourgeois enterprises
    >> to immerge at the end of the "dark ages"?
    >>
    >> Was, like, Rembrandt an art worker for the National Gallery of Holland? And
    >> dude, like wasn't Durer a teacher at the university or Art College or
    >> something?
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> -----Original Message-----
    >> From: owner-list@rhizome.org [mailto:owner-list@rhizome.org] On Behalf Of
    >> Vijay Pattisapu
    >> Sent: April 5, 2007 10:29 AM
    >> To: Marisa Olson
    >> Cc: rhizome
    >> Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Fwd: Ars Publica - Curatorial Report, March 2007
    >>
    >> "Ars Publica basically is a commentary on the paradox that while art
    >> constitutes another type of production to be commercialized, the
    >> financial situation in which most artists encounter themselves, is due
    >> to a sub-paradox that responds on the one hand to the irrelevant
    >> socio-economic value generally associated with art; and on the other
    >> hand with the elitist channels of art commercialization."
    >>
    >> "Sub-paradox"? Eh...
    >>
    >>
    >> Vijay
    >>
    >>
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    >>
    >> On 04/04/07, Marisa Olson <marisa@rhizome.org> wrote:
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    >>> ARS PUBLICA
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