R: Re: R: RHIZOME_RAW: Turbulence Spotlight: "Tabula Visum: Tabular Vision & HTML Cinema" by Patrick Lichty

Posted by Salvatore Iaconesi | Sat Nov 18th 2006 2:20 p.m.

Hello Annie,

I'm not saying that I don't like Patrick's work, because I actually do like
it! :)

What I was saying is that too many times you stick a concept on something only
with words. The word "narrative" has a lot to do with it.
Infact, I love Patrick Lichty's work for reasons that are totally different
from the ones expressed in the statement and review.

Me? :)

I once did a lot of stuff using html tables. The narrative ones seemed to me
like "another guy making graphical artifacts, still or moving, using HTML
tables". Just lookup the terms on google and you'll be flooded with works from
several people. With some very interesting distorsions, as well.

So what I did at the time was to release a single, playful toy which you can
find at

http://www.artisopensource.net/giocattoli/index.html

and just about all over the rest of the website. I even released javascript
libraries to program the stuff, and they have been used a lot.

>thanks

thank you for the kind answer!
s

>----Messaggio originale----
>Dal: bram.org@gmail.com
>Data: 18/11/2006 18.36
>A: <salvatore.iaconesi@fastwebnet.it>
>Cc: <list@rhizome.org>
>Ogg: Re: R: RHIZOME_RAW: Turbulence Spotlight: &quot;Tabula Visum: Tabular
Vision &amp; HTML Cinema&quot; by Patrick Lichty
>
>Dear Salvatore
>This might be a good question.
>I must say I do like "Tabula Viusum a lot" and I have also seen more
>work in this vein (maybe yours)
>It could be something about the context of presentation that makes you
>think, react to it in a certain way.
>I guess for me it's the relation to film, the time element that makes
>the difference.
>
>Could you please send us the url of your work doing this stuff?
>
>thanks
>AA
>
>On 11/18/06, salvatore.iaconesi@fastwebnet.it
><salvatore.iaconesi@fastwebnet.it> wrote:
>> i know i don't have all the "titles" and that it might sound a foolish
>> question:
>>
>> but haven't loads of folks been doing this stuff?
>>
>> even i've been doing this stuff, and i'm the laaaaaast little meaningless
one
>> of a crowd...
>>
>> yes, yes, i know, you/we all grab stuff and attach meanings to it. we all
do.
>> and blablabla...
>>
>> but isn't there something more interesting to "Spotlight"? :)
>>
>> this is meant to be a constructive criticism.
>>
>>
>> >----Messaggio originale----
>> >Dal: turbulence@turbulence.org
>> >Data: 17/11/2006 23.59
>> >A: "Jo-Anne Green"<jo@turbulence.org>
>> >Ogg: RHIZOME_RAW: Turbulence Spotlight: &quot;Tabula Visum: Tabular Vision
>> &amp; HTML Cinema&quot; by Patrick Lichty
>> >
>> >November 17, 2006
>> >Turbulence Spotlight: "Tabula Visum: Tabular Vision & HTML Cinema" by
>> >Patrick Lichty
>> >http://turbulence.org/spotlight/lichty
>> >
>> >Both static and dynamic digital images have often been represented as
>> >'translated' images, reinterpreted from an intermediate image file stored
on
>> >the web. Beginning with these files, Lichty has translated the images and
>> >videos to pure HTML code. As such, they represent a very 'direct' method
of
>> >representation in the browser. In addition, there is a time-based element
>> >that occurs when the tables load into the browser. Thus, "HTML Cinema" has
>> >two dimensions; the time of the load, and the time of the serial.
>> >
>> >Many of these images are excerpts from Lichty's wristcam photography and
>> >video works. After conversion to pure code, several of the pages were
>> >unmanageable; therefore, they are a hybrid of code and console handicraft
by
>> >the artist.
>> >
>> >BIOGRAPHY
>> >
>> >Patrick Lichty is a technologically-based conceptual artist, writer,
>> >independent curator, animator for the activist group "The Yes Men," and
>> >Executive Editor of Intelligent Agent Magazine. His work spans over 15
>> >years, dealing with media narrative/criticism and information aesthetics,
in
>> >many different contexts. He works in diverse technological media,
including
>> >painting, mobile media, printmaking, kinetics, video, VR, generative
music,
>> >and neon. Venues in which Lichty has been involved with solo and
>> >collaborative works include the Whitney Biennial and the International
>> >Symposium on the Electronic Arts (ISEA). Lichty is a faculty member in the
>> >Interactive Arts and Media Department at Columbia College Chicago.
>> >
>> >For more Turbulence Spotlights please visit http://turbulence.
org/spotlight/
>> >
>> >Jo-Anne Green, Co-Director
>> >New Radio and Performing Arts, Inc.: http://new-radio.org
>> >New York: 917.548.7780 . Boston: 617.522.3856
>> >Turbulence: http://turbulence.org
>> >New American Radio: http://somewhere.org
>> >Networked_Performance Blog: http://turbulence.org/blog
>> >Upgrade! Boston: http://turbulence.org/upgrade
>> >
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  • Salvatore Iaconesi | Sun Nov 19th 2006 4:10 p.m.
    Hello there!

    Michael Szpakowski wrote:
    >Sometimes the most interesting art is that which
    >consolidates rather than makes technical or even
    >aesthetic breakthroughs.

    we are living on an edge. now.
    we are right in the middle of the evolution of the things we are talking
    about. it just isn't possible to look at things from a distance: how is it
    possible to consolidate anything? anything that isn't just an unsignificant
    personal view, that is.

    my message wasn't a negative critique on Patrick's work, as i actually like
    and appreciate it.

    it was a critique on the way things get shown, funded, pushed.

    most galleries and exhibitions are insignificant. and "old", conceptually
    obsolete. The structure through which works get evaluated, promoted, funded has
    nothing in common with the contemporary era, with the concepts expressed, with
    the structure of the works themselves.
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