Blogosphericy?

Posted by Jason Van Anden | Sun Oct 29th 2006 7:45 a.m.

Is it just me or does it seem super weird when bloggers interview each other on each other's blogs? If conspiracy is latin for "breathing the same air" - is this a "blogosphericy"?

I recently stumbled upon a really thoughtful review of Cory Archangel's recent show at Team (still up until the 4th) on artfagcity.com, a really super blog written by a Paddy Johnson. The funny thing is that Paddy seemed motivated to write the review (on her blog) because she was upset about the dearth of discussion about new media here at Rhizome (this is mentioned in another thread on her blog). Before I go on about this - just so its not lost in the sauce - the link to the review is at the end of this post.

I sent her an email this morning because I was motivated to point out the irony of the situation. The most relevant part is re-emailed below :

Regarding your commentary on Rhizome becoming less of a resource for discussion - I have noticed lately that a lot more seems to be discussed about new media on individual sites such as your own ... at the expense of boards such as RAW. I suspect that blogs have created a "content brain drain" of sorts - as far as boards go.

Why did you post your CA review on your own blog instead of on RAW?

I get the feeling that people feel it is safer to post on their own blogs than in an open system such as a board - and it kind of is - but at the expense of community.

--- end of re-email

I post this in hopes that this might be discussed further, here.

Here is the Cory Review:
http://artfagcity.blogspot.com/2006/10/cory-arcangels-latest-exhibition-at.html

Best,
Jason Van Anden
www.smileproject.com
  • MTAA | Sun Oct 29th 2006 8:53 a.m.
    Hi,

    I've been thinking about this topic since we started the MTAA-RR
    (MTAA's blog) back in 2003.

    Some of my thoughts are here in this interview:
    http://www.mtaa.net/mtaaRR/news/twhid/art_blogs.html

    excerpted below:

    +++
    Since it's very easy to update the site I just post things there all
    the time that I might email to either my collaborator M.River or post
    to a discussion list like Rhizome. I was very active on the Rhizome
    list for many years but I like the blog better. Discussions started on
    the blog are less likely to devolve into flame wars and it's less
    aggressive. If people want to read my opinions and thoughts the site
    is passively waiting for them to visit, my ideas don't wind up in
    people's in-boxes. Plus, after Rhizome switched to a fee-based
    membership I decided that any extended writings of mine needed to be
    freely accessible via the Internet.
    +++

    When Rhiz was behind the membership wall, it became very important to
    not let your ideas become locked-up behind that.

    BTW, if Lauren or Marisa is reading this... what is the current state
    of membership? Wasn't Rhiz only going to be open for your first year
    of membership or something like that? Thanks for any update.

    Perhaps a network of blogs (paid? very cheap?) would help the
    discussions on Rhiz and part of the bottom line? Wordpress just
    released Wordpress MU (multi-user) which looks like it makes it very
    easy to administer a vast # of blogs on one domain...

    On 10/29/06, Jason Van Anden <jason@smileproject.com> wrote:
    > Is it just me or does it seem super weird when bloggers interview each other on each other's blogs? If conspiracy is latin for "breathing the same air" - is this a "blogosphericy"?
    >
    > I recently stumbled upon a really thoughtful review of Cory Archangel's recent show at Team (still up until the 4th) on artfagcity.com, a really super blog written by a Paddy Johnson. The funny thing is that Paddy seemed motivated to write the review (on her blog) because she was upset about the dearth of discussion about new media here at Rhizome (this is mentioned in another thread on her blog). Before I go on about this - just so its not lost in the sauce - the link to the review is at the end of this post.
    >
    > I sent her an email this morning because I was motivated to point out the irony of the situation. The most relevant part is re-emailed below :
    >
    > Regarding your commentary on Rhizome becoming less of a resource for discussion - I have noticed lately that a lot more seems to be discussed about new media on individual sites such as your own ... at the expense of boards such as RAW. I suspect that blogs have created a "content brain drain" of sorts - as far as boards go.
    >
    > Why did you post your CA review on your own blog instead of on RAW?
    >
    > I get the feeling that people feel it is safer to post on their own blogs than in an open system such as a board - and it kind of is - but at the expense of community.
    >
    > --- end of re-email
    >
    > I post this in hopes that this might be discussed further, here.
    >
    > Here is the Cory Review:
    > http://artfagcity.blogspot.com/2006/10/cory-arcangels-latest-exhibition-at.html
    >
    >
    > Best,
    > Jason Van Anden
    > www.smileproject.com
    > +
    > -> post: list@rhizome.org
    > -> questions: info@rhizome.org
    > -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
    > -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
    > +
    > Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
    > Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
    >

    --
    <twhid>www.mteww.com</twhid>
  • Vijay Pattisapu | Tue Oct 31st 2006 11:39 p.m.
    > Discussions started on the blog are less likely to devolve into flame wars
    and it's less
    > aggressive.

    It's the aggression in RAW that's kept me a returning customer.

    There's something to be said for a listserv that "delights in the sharpness
    and vigor of its intercourse, as does love in bites and scratches that draw
    blood. It is not vigorous and generous enough if it is not quarrelsome, if
    it is civilized and artful, if it fears knocks and moves with restraint."
    (Montaigne)

    And it's stimulating exercise to boot.

    That's true that your writes should be freely accessible, but why not just
    archive better RAW, etc. threads on your blog in parallel?

    Vijay

    On 29/10/06, T.Whid <twhid@twhid.com> wrote:
    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > I've been thinking about this topic since we started the MTAA-RR
    > (MTAA's blog) back in 2003.
    >
    > Some of my thoughts are here in this interview:
    > http://www.mtaa.net/mtaaRR/news/twhid/art_blogs.html
    >
    > excerpted below:
    >
    > +++
    > Since it's very easy to update the site I just post things there all
    > the time that I might email to either my collaborator M.River or post
    > to a discussion list like Rhizome. I was very active on the Rhizome
    > list for many years but I like the blog better. Discussions started on
    > the blog are less likely to devolve into flame wars and it's less
    > aggressive. If people want to read my opinions and thoughts the site
    > is passively waiting for them to visit, my ideas don't wind up in
    > people's in-boxes. Plus, after Rhizome switched to a fee-based
    > membership I decided that any extended writings of mine needed to be
    > freely accessible via the Internet.
    > +++
    >
    > When Rhiz was behind the membership wall, it became very important to
    > not let your ideas become locked-up behind that.
    >
    > BTW, if Lauren or Marisa is reading this... what is the current state
    > of membership? Wasn't Rhiz only going to be open for your first year
    > of membership or something like that? Thanks for any update.
    >
    > Perhaps a network of blogs (paid? very cheap?) would help the
    > discussions on Rhiz and part of the bottom line? Wordpress just
    > released Wordpress MU (multi-user) which looks like it makes it very
    > easy to administer a vast # of blogs on one domain...
    >
    > On 10/29/06, Jason Van Anden <jason@smileproject.com> wrote:
    > > Is it just me or does it seem super weird when bloggers interview each
    > other on each other's blogs? If conspiracy is latin for "breathing the same
    > air" - is this a "blogosphericy"?
    > >
    > > I recently stumbled upon a really thoughtful review of Cory
    > Archangel's recent show at Team (still up until the 4th) on
    > artfagcity.com, a really super blog written by a Paddy Johnson. The funny
    > thing is that Paddy seemed motivated to write the review (on her blog)
    > because she was upset about the dearth of discussion about new media here at
    > Rhizome (this is mentioned in another thread on her blog). Before I go on
    > about this - just so its not lost in the sauce - the link to the review is
    > at the end of this post.
    > >
    > > I sent her an email this morning because I was motivated to point out
    > the irony of the situation. The most relevant part is re-emailed below :
    > >
    > > Regarding your commentary on Rhizome becoming less of a resource for
    > discussion - I have noticed lately that a lot more seems to be discussed
    > about new media on individual sites such as your own ... at the expense of
    > boards such as RAW. I suspect that blogs have created a "content brain
    > drain" of sorts - as far as boards go.
    > >
    > > Why did you post your CA review on your own blog instead of on RAW?
    > >
    > > I get the feeling that people feel it is safer to post on their own
    > blogs than in an open system such as a board - and it kind of is - but at
    > the expense of community.
    > >
    > > --- end of re-email
    > >
    > > I post this in hopes that this might be discussed further, here.
    > >
    > > Here is the Cory Review:
    > >
    > http://artfagcity.blogspot.com/2006/10/cory-arcangels-latest-exhibition-at.html
    > >
    > >
    > > Best,
    > > Jason Van Anden
    > > www.smileproject.com
    > > +
    > > -> post: list@rhizome.org
    > > -> questions: info@rhizome.org
    > > -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
    > > -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
    > > +
    > > Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
    > > Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
    > >
    >
    >
    > --
    > <twhid>www.mteww.com</twhid>
    > +
    > -> post: list@rhizome.org
    > -> questions: info@rhizome.org
    > -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
    > -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
    > +
    > Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
    > Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
    >

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  • Rhizomer | Fri Nov 3rd 2006 7:50 a.m.
    I would just like to make clear that at no point did I say or mean to suggest that I wrote the CA review on my own blog rather than Rhizome because of a dearth of discussion here. I can't post pictures into these threads, and the Rhizome RAW readership tends to be more specific to new media people than my own audience. I wrote that review on my own blog because it is the location of a body of work I am developing and doesn't make any sense for me to break it up in that way.

    Vijay Pattisapu wrote:

    > > Discussions started on the blog are less likely to devolve into
    > flame wars
    > and it's less
    > > aggressive.
    >
    > It's the aggression in RAW that's kept me a returning customer.
    >
    > There's something to be said for a listserv that "delights in the
    > sharpness
    > and vigor of its intercourse, as does love in bites and scratches that
    > draw
    > blood. It is not vigorous and generous enough if it is not
    > quarrelsome, if
    > it is civilized and artful, if it fears knocks and moves with
    > restraint."
    > (Montaigne)
    >
    > And it's stimulating exercise to boot.
    >
    > That's true that your writes should be freely accessible, but why not
    > just
    > archive better RAW, etc. threads on your blog in parallel?
    >
    > Vijay
    >
    > On 29/10/06, T.Whid <twhid@twhid.com> wrote:
    > >
    > > Hi,
    > >
    > > I've been thinking about this topic since we started the MTAA-RR
    > > (MTAA's blog) back in 2003.
    > >
    > > Some of my thoughts are here in this interview:
    > > http://www.mtaa.net/mtaaRR/news/twhid/art_blogs.html
    > >
    > > excerpted below:
    > >
    > > +++
    > > Since it's very easy to update the site I just post things there all
    > > the time that I might email to either my collaborator M.River or
    > post
    > > to a discussion list like Rhizome. I was very active on the Rhizome
    > > list for many years but I like the blog better. Discussions started
    > on
    > > the blog are less likely to devolve into flame wars and it's less
    > > aggressive. If people want to read my opinions and thoughts the site
    > > is passively waiting for them to visit, my ideas don't wind up in
    > > people's in-boxes. Plus, after Rhizome switched to a fee-based
    > > membership I decided that any extended writings of mine needed to be
    > > freely accessible via the Internet.
    > > +++
    > >
    > > When Rhiz was behind the membership wall, it became very important
    > to
    > > not let your ideas become locked-up behind that.
    > >
    > > BTW, if Lauren or Marisa is reading this... what is the current
    > state
    > > of membership? Wasn't Rhiz only going to be open for your first year
    > > of membership or something like that? Thanks for any update.
    > >
    > > Perhaps a network of blogs (paid? very cheap?) would help the
    > > discussions on Rhiz and part of the bottom line? Wordpress just
    > > released Wordpress MU (multi-user) which looks like it makes it very
    > > easy to administer a vast # of blogs on one domain...
    > >
    > > On 10/29/06, Jason Van Anden <jason@smileproject.com> wrote:
    > > > Is it just me or does it seem super weird when bloggers interview
    > each
    > > other on each other's blogs? If conspiracy is latin for "breathing
    > the same
    > > air" - is this a "blogosphericy"?
    > > >
    > > > I recently stumbled upon a really thoughtful review of Cory
    > > Archangel's recent show at Team (still up until the 4th) on
    > > artfagcity.com, a really super blog written by a Paddy Johnson. The
    > funny
    > > thing is that Paddy seemed motivated to write the review (on her
    > blog)
    > > because she was upset about the dearth of discussion about new media
    > here at
    > > Rhizome (this is mentioned in another thread on her blog). Before I
    > go on
    > > about this - just so its not lost in the sauce - the link to the
    > review is
    > > at the end of this post.
    > > >
    > > > I sent her an email this morning because I was motivated to point
    > out
    > > the irony of the situation. The most relevant part is re-emailed
    > below :
    > > >
    > > > Regarding your commentary on Rhizome becoming less of a resource
    > for
    > > discussion - I have noticed lately that a lot more seems to be
    > discussed
    > > about new media on individual sites such as your own ... at the
    > expense of
    > > boards such as RAW. I suspect that blogs have created a "content
    > brain
    > > drain" of sorts - as far as boards go.
    > > >
    > > > Why did you post your CA review on your own blog instead of on
    > RAW?
    > > >
    > > > I get the feeling that people feel it is safer to post on their
    > own
    > > blogs than in an open system such as a board - and it kind of is -
    > but at
    > > the expense of community.
    > > >
    > > > --- end of re-email
    > > >
    > > > I post this in hopes that this might be discussed further, here.
    > > >
    > > > Here is the Cory Review:
    > > >
    > >
    > http://artfagcity.blogspot.com/2006/10/cory-arcangels-latest-exhibition-at.html
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Best,
    > > > Jason Van Anden
    > > > www.smileproject.com
    > > > +
    > > > -> post: list@rhizome.org
    > > > -> questions: info@rhizome.org
    > > > -> subscribe/unsubscribe:
    > http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
    > > > -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
    > > > +
    > > > Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
    > > > Membership Agreement available online at
    > http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    > > --
    > > <twhid>www.mteww.com</twhid>
    > > +
    > > -> post: list@rhizome.org
    > > -> questions: info@rhizome.org
    > > -> subscribe/unsubscribe:
    > http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
    > > -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
    > > +
    > > Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
    > > Membership Agreement available online at
    > http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
    > >
    >
    >
    >
    > --
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    > Austin, TX 78705
    > Cell: (469)877-9166
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