net art news submission

Posted by niki gomez | Sun Jun 2nd 2002 1 a.m.

pls include in net art news and/or rhizome digests- on Tuesday 4th or wed 5=
th..
thanks very.
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  • Ivan Pope | Thu Jul 4th 2002 1 a.m.
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Michael Szpakowski

    'An Enemy of the People'

    http://www.somedancersandmusicians.com/enemy/AnEnemyOfThePeople.html

    Arrested on a trumped up charge in 1939 by Joseph Stalin's secret police =
    the NKVD, Lukasz Szpakowski spent the next two years as a slave labourer in=
    the giant Russian system of penal camps, the Gulag.
    Two years ago, aged 87, he was interviewed at length by his son, the UK c=
    omposer and net artist Michael Szpakowski.

    Ivan sez:
    Only two years, he was lucky.
    The US governmet has started placing people in its own gulag. Recently a =
    US citizen was seized off a plane and condemned by the President and all hi=
    s henchmen as a terrorist. Handed over to the US army, this individual has =
    disappeared into an army camp. The people and the courts, fearful for all s=
    orts of reasons, refuse to condemn this action or other similar actions How=
    many years these people will spend in the US gulag, who knows. Hopefully, =
    when they are 87 they will be interviewed by their own children and art wil=
    l be made about their experiences. We won't learn from it, of course, as we=
    never can.
  • Michael Szpakowski | Thu Jul 4th 2002 1 a.m.
    Ivan
    In the main I agree absolutely with you.
    One of the reasons I wanted to make 'An Enemy of the
    People' is precisely that I think in a way my father's
    experience was actually a sort of 'everyman'
    experience .( in fact he was originally sentenced to
    20 years but was amnestied in '41 when Hitler turned
    on Stalin)
    What I don't share is your fatalism.
    I believe we can and must learn from the past.
    Not only do I think the piece about my Dad is relevant
    to the question of unjust imprisonment today whether
    it be in Guantanamo Bay or Beijing, I also think it's
    relevant to the witch hunt against asylum seekers
    going on in the UK currently.
    When my father came to Britain as a refugee he was
    welcomed with open arms ( as cheap labour I suspect)-
    today the Sun calls Poles and Slovaks- 'The White
    Trash of Europe'
    That's why I took time off doing arty type things a
    couple of weeks back to march for asylum seekers
    rights ( 'they're welcome here!'- that's my kind of
    slogan) and likewise on a number of occasions
    recently to protest US and British imperialism im
    Afghanistan.
    I remain optimistic that it is worth struggling for a
    world where one day these sorts of things will seem
    like a bad dream.
    Having said that- what do you think of the piece?
    best
    michael

    --- Ivan Pope <ivan@ivanpope.com> wrote:
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: Michael Szpakowski
    >
    >
    > 'An Enemy of the People'
    >
    >
    >
    http://www.somedancersandmusicians.com/enemy/AnEnemyOfThePeople.html
    >
    > Arrested on a trumped up charge in 1939 by Joseph
    > Stalin's secret police the NKVD, Lukasz Szpakowski
    > spent the next two years as a slave labourer in the
    > giant Russian system of penal camps, the Gulag.
    > Two years ago, aged 87, he was interviewed at
    > length by his son, the UK composer and net artist
    > Michael Szpakowski.
    >
    > Ivan sez:
    > Only two years, he was lucky.
    > The US governmet has started placing people in its
    > own gulag. Recently a US citizen was seized off a
    > plane and condemned by the President and all his
    > henchmen as a terrorist. Handed over to the US army,
    > this individual has disappeared into an army camp.
    > The people and the courts, fearful for all sorts of
    > reasons, refuse to condemn this action or other
    > similar actions How many years these people will
    > spend in the US gulag, who knows. Hopefully, when
    > they are 87 they will be interviewed by their own
    > children and art will be made about their
    > experiences. We won't learn from it, of course, as
    > we never can.
    >

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  • Max Herman | Thu Jul 4th 2002 1 a.m.
    In a message dated 7/4/2002 2:06:44 PM Central Daylight Time,
    szpako@yahoo.com writes:

    > Having said that- what do you think of the piece?
    > best
    > michael

    Well, if we suppose there were six rules of g2k documentary video, I think
    this one would conform to three and the other three would be non-applicable.
    I loved it, but I love "Come and See" and Fathers and Sons too. I guess I'm
    not qualified to Judge the piece but I enjoyed it very much. Archived direct
    stories and interviews like that would be budgeted fully if I ever pull a Ted
    Turner. Reinventing Studs Terkel.

    There's also the new Bill Moyers' show NOW and Frontline to think of re
    documentary, not to mention the artistic questions around documentary versus
    imaginative art in general, in all artistic media.

    I'm calling it "the vengeful return of occasionalism" on ArtforumTalkBack,
    does that relate to nemesesia and fluxus space? For me it does.

    Max

    ++
  • marc garrett | Thu Jul 4th 2002 1 a.m.
    Now this is what I call a brilliant work - reaching further than typical ar=
    t-pseudo. I felt humbled whilst viewing the whole piece as it communicated =
    to me via the voice of a man who (like many men, women & children) deserved=
    so much more than what these (soulless) power seekers have shamefully disi=
    ngenuously given. I am not going to cheapen this piece with any more verbal=
    nonsense - just thanx for being truthful and intuitive in your intentions =
    in making this piece.

    thanx again - marc
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Michael Szpakowski

    'An Enemy of the People'

    http://www.somedancersandmusicians.com/enemy/AnEnemyOfThePeople.html

    Arrested on a trumped up charge in 1939 by Joseph Stalin's secret polic=
    e the NKVD, Lukasz Szpakowski spent the next two years as a slave labourer =
    in the giant Russian system of penal camps, the Gulag.
    Two years ago, aged 87, he was interviewed at length by his son, the UK=
    composer and net artist Michael Szpakowski.

    Ivan sez:
    Only two years, he was lucky.
    The US governmet has started placing people in its own gulag. Recently =
    a US citizen was seized off a plane and condemned by the President and all =
    his henchmen as a terrorist. Handed over to the US army, this individual ha=
    s disappeared into an army camp. The people and the courts, fearful for all=
    sorts of reasons, refuse to condemn this action or other similar actions H=
    ow many years these people will spend in the US gulag, who knows. Hopefully=
    , when they are 87 they will be interviewed by their own children and art w=
    ill be made about their experiences. We won't learn from it, of course, as =
    we never can.
  • Michael Szpakowski | Fri Jul 5th 2002 1 a.m.
    Max
    I'm delighted you like the piece.

    &..I'm not playing faux dumb but you lose me
    completely about here....
    < I'm calling it "the vengeful return of
    occasionalism" on ArtforumTalkBack,
    does that relate to nemesesia and fluxus space? For
    me it does.>

    maintain the Stakhanovite post rate!-
    obscure- sometimes
    vexing- occasionally
    boring- never

    best
    michael

    --- Nmherman@aol.com wrote:
    > In a message dated 7/4/2002 2:06:44 PM Central
    > Daylight Time,
    > szpako@yahoo.com writes:
    >
    >
    > > Having said that- what do you think of the piece?
    > > best
    > > michael
    >
    > Well, if we suppose there were six rules of g2k
    > documentary video, I think
    > this one would conform to three and the other three
    > would be non-applicable.
    > I loved it, but I love "Come and See" and Fathers
    > and Sons too. I guess I'm
    > not qualified to Judge the piece but I enjoyed it
    > very much. Archived direct
    > stories and interviews like that would be budgeted
    > fully if I ever pull a Ted
    > Turner. Reinventing Studs Terkel.
    >
    > There's also the new Bill Moyers' show NOW and
    > Frontline to think of re
    > documentary, not to mention the artistic questions
    > around documentary versus
    > imaginative art in general, in all artistic media.
    >
    > I'm calling it "the vengeful return of
    > occasionalism" on ArtforumTalkBack,
    > does that relate to nemesesia and fluxus space? For
    > me it does.
    >
    > Max
    >
    > ++
    >

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  • Max Herman | Fri Jul 5th 2002 1 a.m.
    In a message dated 7/5/2002 4:15:43 AM Central Daylight Time,
    szpako@yahoo.com writes:

    > boring- never

    all I'm about to say is part hope and part despair
    too dumb and muddy not to get pulled off arterial
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