sometimes people give me things they made

Posted by curt cloninger | Tue Apr 4th 2006 1:20 p.m.

i asked nikola to give me this:
but who knows whether he will.
either way, the text is here:

I'm going to eat at the local chinese buffet with a free meal coupon
that my wife gave me. It's the card that they stamp every time you
eat there, and then when it fills up, you get a free meal. Hers was
full, so she gave it to me, which was nice of her. I'm on page 142
of Paul Klee's first Bauhaus teaching notebook (The Thinking Eye), so
I'll be reading that. I usually start off with hot & sour soup with
those cruncy things and a dumpling in the soup. Then if they have
thai curry chicken on the buffet, that's usually all I'll eat. There
are two of these restaurants (Asiana Grand Buffet) in the area, and
the one far away from our house always has the thai curry chicken,
but the one closest to our house doesn't always have it. Also, the
sushi bar at the other one is better, but the drive is kind of a pain.

How about y'all? What are you up to today? When I come back from
the restaurant, I'll check this thread. I wonder who will post and
what they will say?

If you're too cool to just post mundane stuff, I totally understand.
Or maybe you respect the stated boundaries and goals of the rhizome
list, and you limit your onlist dialogue to matters pertaining to
art, culture, and media. Seems kind of socialized and safe to me,
but it takes a village to raise a child, and I respect that. What?
You say you can't post a reply because you're currently working on a
net art project that facilitates and foregrounds the use of digital
networks to connect people in intimate, meaningful, day-to-day ways?
Rock on! What? Why don't I save these mundane personal details for
my BLOG? Don't even go there girlfriend because I am already three
steps ahead of you. (I'm not sure what that last sentence means, but
I like the sound of it.)

I'll be back in a couple of hours to check on this thread and let
y'all know how my meal went.

yours truly,
  • Nad | Tue Apr 4th 2006 2:03 p.m.

    are you sure that reading Paul Klee's first Bauhaus teaching notebook
    and eating sweet and sour soup at a time is a good idea?

  • annie abrahams | Tue Apr 4th 2006 2:04 p.m.
    > How about y'all? What are you up to today? When I come back from
    > the restaurant, I'll check this thread. I wonder who will post and
    > what they will say?

    My day is allmost finished.
    Before sleeping I will probably finish David Graeber's "Toward an
    Anthropological Theory of Value".

  • Corey Eiseman | Tue Apr 4th 2006 2:20 p.m.
    Hey Curt. I ain't too cool for school, girlfriend! Today I've been
    working as usual on some commercial projects, trying to pay the bills,
    trying to get organized. I recently hired a new employee. After working
    for myself / by myself for the last four years, it's very weird having
    to get back into being a manager, training and working with a (small)
    team. It's a totally different dynamic.

    Tonight my wife and I will be going to a Marriage and Parenting class
    group we've been taking Tuesday nights. It's a ten week deal, tonight
    will be week four. It's pretty cool because it includes free child watch
    and dinner, so if nothing else it's kind of a much needed date night for us.

    After that I hope to have enough time and energy to make some art
    tonight. At a minimum I'd like to work on the next installment of my
    perpetual canvas blog, and if I can keep the momentum going maybe make
    some contributions to kollabor8. I'd also like to collect my thoughts to
    contribute to the thread about the code repository on Rhizome because I
    think it's a great idea.

    Hope you enjoy your chinese food! Word.

  • curt cloninger | Tue Apr 4th 2006 7:51 p.m.
    OK. I'm back. Thanks to everybody who replied on and offlist. It
    was a good lunch overall. I actually missed lunch, and was charged
    for dinner, and my free meal coupon was only good for lunch, so I had
    to pay money. But that's OK because I still have my free lunch
    coupon for later, plus I got a new stamp on my new free lunch coupon.

    I finished an essay by Michael Meridith in which he more or less
    offhandedly described the concept behind an art project I had begun
    planning months ago, so that was really strange.

    Then I read a print out of this post:
    So even when I'm offline I'm reading online text, which is really sad
    and nerdy.

    Then I read more in Klee. It is slow going but so amazing. He's
    talking about perceptual perspective from his own personal systematic
    perspective. There is the idea of asymmetrical balance in modern
    graphic design. Symmetrical balance is too static, and asymmetry is
    too chaotic, so you skew the symmetry, and then bring it back into
    asymmetrical balance. Klee proposes to do this with perspective,
    representing up to six different perspectives in a single
    composition, and then synthesizing them into what he calls "a single
    median collective viewpoint." It's like some kooky minimalist
    post-analytical cubism synthesized with Klee's understanding of
    appearance, essence, growth/history/life, gravity, and always the
    spiritual "quality" of color.

    They didn't have the thai curry, but the hot and sour soup was
    especially good. I almost braved a Hawaian sushi roll but decided
    against it. About halfway through my meal this guy with a very
    annoying voice and his parents sat down. He was maybe in his 50s and
    his parents seemed old. He was from New York and was visiting his
    parents who are evidently down here in a retirement home. He talked
    about how all presidents throughout history have been crooks, how he
    doesn't trust the media, how even the programmers at Microsoft
    couldn't solve a coding problem he had come across. Then when his
    father got up and tottered off toward the mongolian grill area, this
    guy and his mom talked about how when you pick up the portable phone
    off the stand, you don't have to press "on." That actually turns it
    off. It's only when you pick the phone up away from the stand that
    you have to press "on." This guy was frustrated that his father
    couldn't understand how it worked. I've hung up on people a lot
    myself making that same mistake. Eventually, I had to put my fingers
    in my ears to focus on the Klee. It was like Woody Allen in Annie
    Hall standing behind that pseudo-McLuhan expert in the movie line.

    Honestly, because of my little Rhizome social experiment, the lunch
    was kind of a McLuhan-esque experience ("in the electric age we wear
    all mankind as our skin"), and not as relaxing as it normally would
    have been. I am not perpetually conscious of the instantaneous,
    "primitive" (McLuhan's term) time field that the network creates, but
    having positioned myself "between posts" on the network made me feel
    inordinately exposed. I was on the grid. But I got my narcissistic
    bloggin' fix via rhizome raw, and I'm apparently none the worse for

    And what blog entry would be complete without some "currently
    listening to" data? On the way home I listened to the last half of
    Bowie's Heroes, and then to some Brian Jonestown Massacre. Current
    Mood: Full of Chinese food. Someone should do a net art project
    where they make up abstract emoticons for extremely specific moods
    like "full of chinese food," "girlfriend just dumped me," "three days
    on a mescalin bender," etc.

    Keep those cards and letters coming.

  • ryan griffis | Tue Apr 4th 2006 9:01 p.m.
    Angie Waller's got something close...

    On Apr 4, 2006, at 7:55 PM, Curt Cloninger wrote:

    > Someone should do a net art project where they make up abstract
    > emoticons for extremely specific moods like "full of chinese food,"
    > "girlfriend just dumped me," "three days on a mescalin bender," etc.
  • Eric Dymond | Tue Apr 4th 2006 11:48 p.m.
    Minerva Cuevas has an older project, Mejor Veda Corp., where I requested a package from the web site (free art).
    It came about 6 months later (that was at least 5 years ago), the cool orange box is still sitting unopened and on display.
    Resisting the temptation to open it was one of the better parts of the experience.
    I posted a few photos of the package (still unopened)
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