new name for Net Art News?

Posted by Marisa Olson | Sun Dec 4th 2005 3:49 p.m.

Dear readers,

I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to change the name
of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.

As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is currently
redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in which we are
thinking about all the recent developments in our field and how
Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.

On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has been to broaden
our scope and reach, getting more international in our coverage and
also covering not only internet art but also software art,
performance, sound art, data visualization, technology-enabled social
sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other branches of new
media practice.

While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title Net Art News
no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The first and
simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,' but of course
this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily looking to split
hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.' The title
needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and hopefully also
inviting.

What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art News, you can
look up previous pieces, by month, here:

http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php

With thanks,
Marisa

+ + +
Marisa Olson
Editor & Curator at Large
Rhizome.org
  • marc garrett | Sun Dec 4th 2005 6:19 p.m.
    Hi Marisa and all,

    Perhaps, 'Rhizomatic Art News' - reflecting the nature of what Rhizome's
    original intentions & function? Thus decalring the ahem 'brand' in the
    title, whilst declaring the context at the same time. If you are now,
    more consciously bound to explore creativity that relates to all aspects
    of media art ina wider context, this is a start...

    Here are a few 'off the cuff' suggestions also:-

    Media Arts Transmissions
    Rhizomatic Art News
    Media Art Broadcast
    Media Art Voice
    Media Art at Rhizome
    Rhizomatic Relations
    Rhizomatic Communications
    Media Art Relations
    Media Art Today
    Media Art Creativity
    Creative Networking Info
    Creative Networking News
    Media Art Connections
    Media Art Radar
    Media creative reference

    marc

    >Dear readers,
    >
    >I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to change the name
    >of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.
    >
    >As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is currently
    >redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in which we are
    >thinking about all the recent developments in our field and how
    >Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.
    >
    >On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has been to broaden
    >our scope and reach, getting more international in our coverage and
    >also covering not only internet art but also software art,
    >performance, sound art, data visualization, technology-enabled social
    >sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other branches of new
    >media practice.
    >
    >While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title Net Art News
    >no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The first and
    >simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,' but of course
    >this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily looking to split
    >hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.' The title
    >needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and hopefully also
    >inviting.
    >
    >What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
    >If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art News, you can
    >look up previous pieces, by month, here:
    >
    >http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php
    >
    >With thanks,
    >Marisa
    >
    >
    >+ + +
    >Marisa Olson
    >Editor & Curator at Large
    >Rhizome.org
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  • Marisa Olson | Sun Dec 4th 2005 8:55 p.m.
    Marc,

    Thanks for your thoughtful response! A number of these are
    interesting. Mark Tribe once told me that the title "Net Art News"
    wasn't intended to be just news about net art, but more net-based art
    news. Obviously the emphasis is on new media art, but I like that we
    (meaning not just staff, but us in the general Rhizome community) are
    moving towards a broader conception of what that encompasses... It
    says a lot about the vitality of our field!

    Anyway, I'd love to hear from more of you, regarding thoughts on
    titles. Meanwhile, I particularly like these, among Marc's (and I'd
    add them to a list that includes Media Art News):

    > Rhizomatic Art News
    > Media Art Broadcast
    > Media Art Today
    > Media Art Radar

    I actually think that, of all of them, I might be leaning most towards
    Media Art Today. It plays nicely, as [what we now call Net Art News]
    goes out three times per week, so it almost feels like a daily piece.
    But it also acknowledges that the media arts have a long history and
    these articles are about things that are happening in this moment...

    But that's just how I feel at this moment... What do others think?

    thanks, again!
    marisa

    > >Dear readers,
    > >
    > >I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to change the name
    > >of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.
    > >
    > >As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is currently
    > >redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in which we are
    > >thinking about all the recent developments in our field and how
    > >Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.
    > >
    > >On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has been to broaden
    > >our scope and reach, getting more international in our coverage and
    > >also covering not only internet art but also software art,
    > >performance, sound art, data visualization, technology-enabled social
    > >sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other branches of new
    > >media practice.
    > >
    > >While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title Net Art News
    > >no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The first and
    > >simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,' but of course
    > >this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily looking to split
    > >hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.' The title
    > >needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and hopefully also
    > >inviting.
    > >
    > >What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
    > >If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art News, you can
    > >look up previous pieces, by month, here:
    > >
    > >http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php
    > >
    > >With thanks,
    > >Marisa
    > >
    > >
    > >+ + +
    > >Marisa Olson
    > >Editor & Curator at Large
    > >Rhizome.org
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  • Pall Thayer | Sun Dec 4th 2005 9:38 p.m.
    I agree that "Media Art Today" sounds good but we can go a step
    further and call it, "Media Art Tomorrow". I think we have to stop
    there though, "Media Art Next Week" is just too long.

    Or, what say we put ourselves on top of everything and call it "Art
    Tomorrow". That actually has a cool ring to it. I've always disliked
    the terms "media art" (what art is NOT "media art"?) and "new media
    art" (what's so new about media that's been around for decades?).

    Pall
    On 4.12.2005, at 22:55, Marisa Olson wrote:

    > Marc,
    >
    > Thanks for your thoughtful response! A number of these are
    > interesting. Mark Tribe once told me that the title "Net Art News"
    > wasn't intended to be just news about net art, but more net-based art
    > news. Obviously the emphasis is on new media art, but I like that we
    > (meaning not just staff, but us in the general Rhizome community) are
    > moving towards a broader conception of what that encompasses... It
    > says a lot about the vitality of our field!
    >
    > Anyway, I'd love to hear from more of you, regarding thoughts on
    > titles. Meanwhile, I particularly like these, among Marc's (and I'd
    > add them to a list that includes Media Art News):
    >
    >> Rhizomatic Art News
    >> Media Art Broadcast
    >> Media Art Today
    >> Media Art Radar
    >
    > I actually think that, of all of them, I might be leaning most towards
    > Media Art Today. It plays nicely, as [what we now call Net Art News]
    > goes out three times per week, so it almost feels like a daily piece.
    > But it also acknowledges that the media arts have a long history and
    > these articles are about things that are happening in this moment...
    >
    > But that's just how I feel at this moment... What do others think?
    >
    > thanks, again!
    > marisa
    >
    >>> Dear readers,
    >>>
    >>> I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to change the name
    >>> of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.
    >>>
    >>> As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is currently
    >>> redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in which we are
    >>> thinking about all the recent developments in our field and how
    >>> Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.
    >>>
    >>> On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has been to broaden
    >>> our scope and reach, getting more international in our coverage and
    >>> also covering not only internet art but also software art,
    >>> performance, sound art, data visualization, technology-enabled
    >>> social
    >>> sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other branches
    >>> of new
    >>> media practice.
    >>>
    >>> While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title Net Art
    >>> News
    >>> no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The first and
    >>> simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,' but of course
    >>> this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily looking to split
    >>> hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.' The title
    >>> needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and hopefully also
    >>> inviting.
    >>>
    >>> What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly
    >>> appreciated.
    >>> If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art News, you can
    >>> look up previous pieces, by month, here:
    >>>
    >>> http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php
    >>>
    >>> With thanks,
    >>> Marisa
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> + + +
    >>> Marisa Olson
    >>> Editor & Curator at Large
    >>> Rhizome.org
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  • ryan griffis | Sun Dec 4th 2005 10:23 p.m.
    I like Pall's suggestion for using "tomorrow"...
    but i don't like the avant garde associations of being "ahead" as a
    qualifier... ahead of what exactly?
    how about something like "Art Connections" (with the "media" or not)
    since most of the pieces are really about introducing then linking
    people to work or more info about work?
    Or running with Marc's "radar" concept: "Art Blips" (again, with or w/o
    "media")
    ?
    ryan

    On Dec 4, 2005, at 10:38 PM, Pall Thayer wrote:

    > I agree that "Media Art Today" sounds good but we can go a step
    > further and call it, "Media Art Tomorrow". I think we have to stop
    > there though, "Media Art Next Week" is just too long.
    >
    > Or, what say we put ourselves on top of everything and call it "Art
    > Tomorrow". That actually has a cool ring to it. I've always disliked
    > the terms "media art" (what art is NOT "media art"?) and "new media
    > art" (what's so new about media that's been around for decades?).
  • abe | Mon Dec 5th 2005 1:06 a.m.
    (the) sprout out

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Marisa Olson" <marisa@rhizome.org>
    To: <list@rhizome.org>
    Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 3:49 PM
    Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?

    > Dear readers,
    >
    > I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to change the name
    > of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.
    >
    > As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is currently
    > redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in which we are
    > thinking about all the recent developments in our field and how
    > Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.
    >
    > On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has been to broaden
    > our scope and reach, getting more international in our coverage and
    > also covering not only internet art but also software art,
    > performance, sound art, data visualization, technology-enabled social
    > sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other branches of new
    > media practice.
    >
    > While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title Net Art News
    > no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The first and
    > simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,' but of course
    > this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily looking to split
    > hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.' The title
    > needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and hopefully also
    > inviting.
    >
    > What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
    > If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art News, you can
    > look up previous pieces, by month, here:
    >
    > http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php
    >
    > With thanks,
    > Marisa
    >
    >
    > + + +
    > Marisa Olson
    > Editor & Curator at Large
    > Rhizome.org
    >
    > +
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    >
    >
  • marc garrett | Mon Dec 5th 2005 4:51 a.m.
    (the) hamster gazette

    m.

    > (the) sprout out
    >
    >
    >
    > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marisa Olson" <marisa@rhizome.org>
    > To: <list@rhizome.org>
    > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 3:49 PM
    > Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
    >
    >
    >> Dear readers,
    >>
    >> I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to change the name
    >> of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.
    >>
    >> As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is currently
    >> redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in which we are
    >> thinking about all the recent developments in our field and how
    >> Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.
    >>
    >> On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has been to broaden
    >> our scope and reach, getting more international in our coverage and
    >> also covering not only internet art but also software art,
    >> performance, sound art, data visualization, technology-enabled social
    >> sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other branches of new
    >> media practice.
    >>
    >> While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title Net Art News
    >> no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The first and
    >> simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,' but of course
    >> this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily looking to split
    >> hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.' The title
    >> needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and hopefully also
    >> inviting.
    >>
    >> What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
    >> If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art News, you can
    >> look up previous pieces, by month, here:
    >>
    >> http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php
    >>
    >> With thanks,
    >> Marisa
    >>
    >>
    >> + + +
    >> Marisa Olson
    >> Editor & Curator at Large
    >> Rhizome.org
    >>
    >> +
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  • Pall Thayer | Mon Dec 5th 2005 6:31 a.m.
    _Art_Tomorrow_
    What we're doing today and you'll be doing tomorrow

    On 5.12.2005, at 07:04, marc wrote:

    > (the) hamster gazette
    >
    > m.
    >
    >> (the) sprout out
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marisa Olson"
    >> <marisa@rhizome.org>
    >> To: <list@rhizome.org>
    >> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 3:49 PM
    >> Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
    >>
    >>
    >>> Dear readers,
    >>>
    >>> I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to change the name
    >>> of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.
    >>>
    >>> As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is currently
    >>> redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in which we are
    >>> thinking about all the recent developments in our field and how
    >>> Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.
    >>>
    >>> On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has been to broaden
    >>> our scope and reach, getting more international in our coverage and
    >>> also covering not only internet art but also software art,
    >>> performance, sound art, data visualization, technology-enabled
    >>> social
    >>> sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other branches
    >>> of new
    >>> media practice.
    >>>
    >>> While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title Net Art
    >>> News
    >>> no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The first and
    >>> simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,' but of course
    >>> this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily looking to split
    >>> hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.' The title
    >>> needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and hopefully also
    >>> inviting.
    >>>
    >>> What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly
    >>> appreciated.
    >>> If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art News, you can
    >>> look up previous pieces, by month, here:
    >>>
    >>> http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php
    >>>
    >>> With thanks,
    >>> Marisa
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> + + +
    >>> Marisa Olson
    >>> Editor & Curator at Large
    >>> Rhizome.org
    >>>
    >>> +
    >>> -> post: list@rhizome.org
    >>> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
    >>> -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/
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    >>> +
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    >>>
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    http://www.this.is/pallit
  • annie abrahams | Mon Dec 5th 2005 7:18 a.m.
    As Ryan I don't like the avantgarde connotation of Tomorrow

    Among others I like

    Art_Radar

    annie

    On 12/5/05, Pall Thayer <p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca> wrote:
    >
    > _Art_Tomorrow_
    > What we're doing today and you'll be doing tomorrow
    >
    >
    > On 5.12.2005, at 07:04, marc wrote:
    >
    > > (the) hamster gazette
    > >
    > > m.
    > >
    > >> (the) sprout out
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marisa Olson"
    > >> <marisa@rhizome.org>
    > >> To: <list@rhizome.org>
    > >> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 3:49 PM
    > >> Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>> Dear readers,
    > >>>
    > >>> I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to change the name
    > >>> of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.
    > >>>
    > >>> As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is currently
    > >>> redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in which we are
    > >>> thinking about all the recent developments in our field and how
    > >>> Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.
    > >>>
    > >>> On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has been to broaden
    > >>> our scope and reach, getting more international in our coverage and
    > >>> also covering not only internet art but also software art,
    > >>> performance, sound art, data visualization, technology-enabled
    > >>> social
    > >>> sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other branches
    > >>> of new
    > >>> media practice.
    > >>>
    > >>> While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title Net Art
    > >>> News
    > >>> no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The first and
    > >>> simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,' but of course
    > >>> this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily looking to split
    > >>> hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.' The title
    > >>> needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and hopefully also
    > >>> inviting.
    > >>>
    > >>> What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly
    > >>> appreciated.
    > >>> If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art News, you can
    > >>> look up previous pieces, by month, here:
    > >>>
    > >>> http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php
    > >>>
    > >>> With thanks,
    > >>> Marisa
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>> + + +
    > >>> Marisa Olson
    > >>> Editor & Curator at Large
    > >>> Rhizome.org
    > >>>
    >
  • marc garrett | Mon Dec 5th 2005 7:35 a.m.
    I agree,

    'Tomorrow' smells.

    marc

    > As Ryan I don't like the avantgarde connotation of Tomorrow
    >
    > Among others I like
    >
    > Art_Radar
    >
    > annie
    >
    >
    > On 12/5/05, *Pall Thayer* <p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca
    > <mailto:p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca>> wrote:
    >
    > _Art_Tomorrow_
    > What we're doing today and you'll be doing tomorrow
    >
    >
    > On 5.12.2005, at 07:04, marc wrote:
    >
    > > (the) hamster gazette
    > >
    > > m.
    > >
    > >> (the) sprout out
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marisa Olson"
    > >> <marisa@rhizome.org <mailto:marisa@rhizome.org>>
    > >> To: < list@rhizome.org <mailto:list@rhizome.org>>
    > >> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 3:49 PM
    > >> Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>> Dear readers,
    > >>>
    > >>> I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to change
    > the name
    > >>> of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.
    > >>>
    > >>> As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is currently
    > >>> redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in which we are
    > >>> thinking about all the recent developments in our field and how
    > >>> Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.
    > >>>
    > >>> On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has been to
    > broaden
    > >>> our scope and reach, getting more international in our
    > coverage and
    > >>> also covering not only internet art but also software art,
    > >>> performance, sound art, data visualization, technology-enabled
    > >>> social
    > >>> sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other branches
    > >>> of new
    > >>> media practice.
    > >>>
    > >>> While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title Net Art
    > >>> News
    > >>> no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The first and
    > >>> simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,' but of
    > course
    > >>> this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily looking to
    > split
    > >>> hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.' The title
    > >>> needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and hopefully also
    > >>> inviting.
    > >>>
    > >>> What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly
    > >>> appreciated.
    > >>> If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art News, you can
    > >>> look up previous pieces, by month, here:
    > >>>
    > >>> http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php
    > >>>
    > >>> With thanks,
    > >>> Marisa
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>> + + +
    > >>> Marisa Olson
    > >>> Editor & Curator at Large
    > >>> Rhizome.org <http://Rhizome.org>
    > >>>
    >
    >
  • Pall Thayer | Mon Dec 5th 2005 7:55 a.m.
    It doesn't smell any more than "new media". Maybe I'll just use it as
    a nom de plume, "new work by Art Tomorrow".

    Best r.
    Art

    On 5.12.2005, at 09:48, marc wrote:

    > I agree,
    >
    > 'Tomorrow' smells.
    >
    > marc
    >
    >
    >> As Ryan I don't like the avantgarde connotation of Tomorrow
    >>
    >> Among others I like
    >>
    >> Art_Radar
    >>
    >> annie
    >>
    >>
    >> On 12/5/05, *Pall Thayer* <p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca
    >> <mailto:p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca>> wrote:
    >>
    >> _Art_Tomorrow_
    >> What we're doing today and you'll be doing tomorrow
    >>
    >>
    >> On 5.12.2005, at 07:04, marc wrote:
    >>
    >> > (the) hamster gazette
    >> >
    >> > m.
    >> >
    >> >> (the) sprout out
    >> >>
    >> >>
    >> >>
    >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marisa Olson"
    >> >> <marisa@rhizome.org <mailto:marisa@rhizome.org>>
    >> >> To: < list@rhizome.org <mailto:list@rhizome.org>>
    >> >> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 3:49 PM
    >> >> Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
    >> >>
    >> >>
    >> >>> Dear readers,
    >> >>>
    >> >>> I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to change
    >> the name
    >> >>> of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.
    >> >>>
    >> >>> As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is
    >> currently
    >> >>> redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in which
    >> we are
    >> >>> thinking about all the recent developments in our field
    >> and how
    >> >>> Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.
    >> >>>
    >> >>> On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has been to
    >> broaden
    >> >>> our scope and reach, getting more international in our
    >> coverage and
    >> >>> also covering not only internet art but also software art,
    >> >>> performance, sound art, data visualization, technology-
    >> enabled
    >> >>> social
    >> >>> sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other
    >> branches
    >> >>> of new
    >> >>> media practice.
    >> >>>
    >> >>> While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title
    >> Net Art
    >> >>> News
    >> >>> no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The
    >> first and
    >> >>> simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,' but of
    >> course
    >> >>> this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily looking to
    >> split
    >> >>> hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.'
    >> The title
    >> >>> needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and hopefully
    >> also
    >> >>> inviting.
    >> >>>
    >> >>> What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly
    >> >>> appreciated.
    >> >>> If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art News,
    >> you can
    >> >>> look up previous pieces, by month, here:
    >> >>>
    >> >>> http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php
    >> >>>
    >> >>> With thanks,
    >> >>> Marisa
    >> >>>
    >> >>>
    >> >>> + + +
    >> >>> Marisa Olson
    >> >>> Editor & Curator at Large
    >> >>> Rhizome.org <http://Rhizome.org>
    >> >>>
    >>
    >>
    >
    > +
    > -> post: list@rhizome.org
    > -> questions: info@rhizome.org
    > -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/
    > subscribe.rhiz
    > -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
    > +
    > Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
    > Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/
    > 29.php
    >

    --
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    p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca
    http://www.this.is/pallit
  • Dirk Vekemans | Mon Dec 5th 2005 8:19 a.m.
    don't like all the tomorrow things either, might as well call it new news or
    make news and before you know it you end up with nix news or nomo news

    hmm, i don't like the (military) bliep in radars, either.

    sth with 'hive' perhaps. Kinda like the idea of getting New Honey from the
    artHive sticking in the mailbox.

    Or sth with 'swarm'. Hitswarm(still).

    Snapit. Synergetic News on Art Production, Information and Technology.

    WWWart: Double U, double me, double everybody.

    personally i'd call it "stack overflow", but that's way too nAarty...

    goodluck,
    dv

    ________________________________

    Van: owner-list@rhizome.org [mailto:owner-list@rhizome.org] Namens
    aabrahams
    Verzonden: maandag 5 december 2005 15:18
    Aan: list@rhizome.org
    Onderwerp: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?

    As Ryan I don't like the avantgarde connotation of Tomorrow

    Among others I like

    Art_Radar

    annie

    On 12/5/05, Pall Thayer <p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca> wrote:

    _Art_Tomorrow_
    What we're doing today and you'll be doing tomorrow

    On 5.12.2005, at 07:04, marc wrote:

    > (the) hamster gazette
    >
    > m.
    >
    >> (the) sprout out
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marisa Olson"
    >> <marisa@rhizome.org>
    >> To: < list@rhizome.org <mailto:list@rhizome.org> >
    >> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 3:49 PM
    >> Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
    >>
    >>
    >>> Dear readers,
    >>>
    >>> I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to
    change the name
    >>> of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.
    >>>
    >>> As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is
    currently
    >>> redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in
    which we are
    >>> thinking about all the recent developments in our field
    and how
    >>> Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.
    >>>
    >>> On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has
    been to broaden
    >>> our scope and reach, getting more international in our
    coverage and
    >>> also covering not only internet art but also software
    art,
    >>> performance, sound art, data visualization,
    technology-enabled
    >>> social
    >>> sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other
    branches
    >>> of new
    >>> media practice.
    >>>
    >>> While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title
    Net Art
    >>> News
    >>> no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The
    first and
    >>> simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,'
    but of course
    >>> this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily
    looking to split
    >>> hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.'
    The title
    >>> needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and
    hopefully also
    >>> inviting.
    >>>
    >>> What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly

    >>> appreciated.
    >>> If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art
    News, you can
    >>> look up previous pieces, by month, here:
    >>>
    >>> http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php
    >>>
    >>> With thanks,
    >>> Marisa
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> + + +
    >>> Marisa Olson
    >>> Editor & Curator at Large
    >>> Rhizome.org
    >>>
  • marc garrett | Mon Dec 5th 2005 8:19 a.m.
    Hi Pall,

    I suppose one can assume 'smells' to be a rather subjective affair, as
    well as biological sensation. Although I am just about recovering from
    flu, and my nose cannot smell much at the moment.

    Personally, I do feel that 'Art Tomorrow', smacks of modernist &
    post-merdonist intentions (dare I say), or like a business marketing
    ploy, or like some mid-90's cyber-Kroker thang.

    I totally agree with your perception regarding the term "new media", it
    is pretty worn out these days, especially with how things are generally
    and swiftly shifting, moving along.

    It's going to be interesting watching some of the (more desperate)
    historians trying to claim honourship on the term "new media art", now.
    The territorial scuttling has already begun I believe, I can hear the
    keyboards tapping away....

    "I created the term first"
    tap::::
    "Yes I did- I said it first"
    tap::::
    "No it wasn't you, It was me - I said it first"
    tap::::...........................'''''''.......
    "Honest, I said it first"..........

    *and history becomes yet another marketing strategy with the aim to
    promote the more dominant canons of the day, leaving the wider context
    of creativity to rot away forever in the vaults of 'they were not good
    enough to seen.....................*

    ooops, sorry for being a bit cynical at the end there.

    marc

    marc

    > It doesn't smell any more than "new media". Maybe I'll just use it as
    > a nom de plume, "new work by Art Tomorrow".
    >
    > Best r.
    > Art
    >
    > On 5.12.2005, at 09:48, marc wrote:
    >
    >> I agree,
    >>
    >> 'Tomorrow' smells.
    >>
    >> marc
    >>
    >>
    >>> As Ryan I don't like the avantgarde connotation of Tomorrow
    >>>
    >>> Among others I like
    >>>
    >>> Art_Radar
    >>>
    >>> annie
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On 12/5/05, *Pall Thayer* <p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca
    >>> <mailto:p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>> _Art_Tomorrow_
    >>> What we're doing today and you'll be doing tomorrow
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On 5.12.2005, at 07:04, marc wrote:
    >>>
    >>> > (the) hamster gazette
    >>> >
    >>> > m.
    >>> >
    >>> >> (the) sprout out
    >>> >>
    >>> >>
    >>> >>
    >>> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marisa Olson"
    >>> >> <marisa@rhizome.org <mailto:marisa@rhizome.org>>
    >>> >> To: < list@rhizome.org <mailto:list@rhizome.org>>
    >>> >> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 3:49 PM
    >>> >> Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
    >>> >>
    >>> >>
    >>> >>> Dear readers,
    >>> >>>
    >>> >>> I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to change
    >>> the name
    >>> >>> of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.
    >>> >>>
    >>> >>> As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is currently
    >>> >>> redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in which we are
    >>> >>> thinking about all the recent developments in our field and how
    >>> >>> Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.
    >>> >>>
    >>> >>> On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has been to
    >>> broaden
    >>> >>> our scope and reach, getting more international in our
    >>> coverage and
    >>> >>> also covering not only internet art but also software art,
    >>> >>> performance, sound art, data visualization, technology- enabled
    >>> >>> social
    >>> >>> sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other branches
    >>> >>> of new
    >>> >>> media practice.
    >>> >>>
    >>> >>> While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title Net Art
    >>> >>> News
    >>> >>> no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The first and
    >>> >>> simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,' but of
    >>> course
    >>> >>> this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily looking to
    >>> split
    >>> >>> hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.' The title
    >>> >>> needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and hopefully also
    >>> >>> inviting.
    >>> >>>
    >>> >>> What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly
    >>> >>> appreciated.
    >>> >>> If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art News, you can
    >>> >>> look up previous pieces, by month, here:
    >>> >>>
    >>> >>> http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php
    >>> >>>
    >>> >>> With thanks,
    >>> >>> Marisa
    >>> >>>
    >>> >>>
    >>> >>> + + +
    >>> >>> Marisa Olson
    >>> >>> Editor & Curator at Large
    >>> >>> Rhizome.org <http://Rhizome.org>
    >>> >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>
    >> +
    >> -> post: list@rhizome.org
    >> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
    >> -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/ subscribe.rhiz
    >> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
    >> +
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    >
    >
    > --
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    >
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  • carlos katastrofsky | Mon Dec 5th 2005 8:26 a.m.
    tomorrows new media exorcists

    On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 15:55:05 +0100, Pall Thayer
    <p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca> wrote:

    > It doesn't smell any more than "new media". Maybe I'll just use it as a
    > nom de plume, "new work by Art Tomorrow".
    >
    > Best r.
    > Art
    >
    > On 5.12.2005, at 09:48, marc wrote:
    >
    >> I agree,
    >>
    >> 'Tomorrow' smells.
    >>
    >> marc
    >>
    >>
    >>> As Ryan I don't like the avantgarde connotation of Tomorrow
    >>>
    >>> Among others I like
    >>>
    >>> Art_Radar
    >>>
    >>> annie
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On 12/5/05, *Pall Thayer* <p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca
    >>> <mailto:p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>> _Art_Tomorrow_
    >>> What we're doing today and you'll be doing tomorrow
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On 5.12.2005, at 07:04, marc wrote:
    >>>
    >>> > (the) hamster gazette
    >>> >
    >>> > m.
    >>> >
    >>> >> (the) sprout out
    >>> >>
    >>> >>
    >>> >>
    >>> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marisa Olson"
    >>> >> <marisa@rhizome.org <mailto:marisa@rhizome.org>>
    >>> >> To: < list@rhizome.org <mailto:list@rhizome.org>>
    >>> >> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 3:49 PM
    >>> >> Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
    >>> >>
    >>> >>
    >>> >>> Dear readers,
    >>> >>>
    >>> >>> I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to change
    >>> the name
    >>> >>> of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.
    >>> >>>
    >>> >>> As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is
    >>> currently
    >>> >>> redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in which we
    >>> are
    >>> >>> thinking about all the recent developments in our field and how
    >>> >>> Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.
    >>> >>>
    >>> >>> On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has been to
    >>> broaden
    >>> >>> our scope and reach, getting more international in our
    >>> coverage and
    >>> >>> also covering not only internet art but also software art,
    >>> >>> performance, sound art, data visualization, technology-enabled
    >>> >>> social
    >>> >>> sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other branches
    >>> >>> of new
    >>> >>> media practice.
    >>> >>>
    >>> >>> While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title Net
    >>> Art
    >>> >>> News
    >>> >>> no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The first
    >>> and
    >>> >>> simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,' but of
    >>> course
    >>> >>> this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily looking to
    >>> split
    >>> >>> hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.' The
    >>> title
    >>> >>> needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and hopefully also
    >>> >>> inviting.
    >>> >>>
    >>> >>> What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly
    >>> >>> appreciated.
    >>> >>> If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art News, you
    >>> can
    >>> >>> look up previous pieces, by month, here:
    >>> >>>
    >>> >>> http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php
    >>> >>>
    >>> >>> With thanks,
    >>> >>> Marisa
    >>> >>>
    >>> >>>
    >>> >>> + + +
    >>> >>> Marisa Olson
    >>> >>> Editor & Curator at Large
    >>> >>> Rhizome.org <http://Rhizome.org>
    >>> >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>
    >> +
    >> -> post: list@rhizome.org
    >> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
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    >> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
    >> +
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    >> Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
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    >
    >
    >
    > --
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  • Sofia Oliveira | Mon Dec 5th 2005 8:30 a.m.
    the probe
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Dirk Vekemans" <dv@vilt.net>
    To: <list@rhizome.org>
    Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 3:18 PM
    Subject: RE: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?

    > don't like all the tomorrow things either, might as well call it new news
    or
    > make news and before you know it you end up with nix news or nomo news
    >
    > hmm, i don't like the (military) bliep in radars, either.
    >
    > sth with 'hive' perhaps. Kinda like the idea of getting New Honey from the
    > artHive sticking in the mailbox.
    >
    > Or sth with 'swarm'. Hitswarm(still).
    >
    > Snapit. Synergetic News on Art Production, Information and Technology.
    >
    > WWWart: Double U, double me, double everybody.
    >
    > personally i'd call it "stack overflow", but that's way too nAarty...
    >
    > goodluck,
    > dv
    >
    >
    > ________________________________
    >
    > Van: owner-list@rhizome.org [mailto:owner-list@rhizome.org] Namens
    > aabrahams
    > Verzonden: maandag 5 december 2005 15:18
    > Aan: list@rhizome.org
    > Onderwerp: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
    >
    >
    > As Ryan I don't like the avantgarde connotation of Tomorrow
    >
    > Among others I like
    >
    > Art_Radar
    >
    > annie
    >
    >
    >
    > On 12/5/05, Pall Thayer <p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca> wrote:
    >
    > _Art_Tomorrow_
    > What we're doing today and you'll be doing tomorrow
    >
    >
    > On 5.12.2005, at 07:04, marc wrote:
    >
    > > (the) hamster gazette
    > >
    > > m.
    > >
    > >> (the) sprout out
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marisa Olson"
    > >> <marisa@rhizome.org>
    > >> To: < list@rhizome.org <mailto:list@rhizome.org> >
    > >> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 3:49 PM
    > >> Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>> Dear readers,
    > >>>
    > >>> I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to
    > change the name
    > >>> of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.
    > >>>
    > >>> As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is
    > currently
    > >>> redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in
    > which we are
    > >>> thinking about all the recent developments in our field
    > and how
    > >>> Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.
    > >>>
    > >>> On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has
    > been to broaden
    > >>> our scope and reach, getting more international in our
    > coverage and
    > >>> also covering not only internet art but also software
    > art,
    > >>> performance, sound art, data visualization,
    > technology-enabled
    > >>> social
    > >>> sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other
    > branches
    > >>> of new
    > >>> media practice.
    > >>>
    > >>> While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title
    > Net Art
    > >>> News
    > >>> no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The
    > first and
    > >>> simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,'
    > but of course
    > >>> this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily
    > looking to split
    > >>> hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.'
    > The title
    > >>> needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and
    > hopefully also
    > >>> inviting.
    > >>>
    > >>> What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly
    >
    > >>> appreciated.
    > >>> If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art
    > News, you can
    > >>> look up previous pieces, by month, here:
    > >>>
    > >>> http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php
    > >>>
    > >>> With thanks,
    > >>> Marisa
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>> + + +
    > >>> Marisa Olson
    > >>> Editor & Curator at Large
    > >>> Rhizome.org
    > >>>
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > +
    > -> post: list@rhizome.org
    > -> questions: info@rhizome.org
    > -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
    > -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
    > +
    > Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
    > Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
    >
  • abe | Mon Dec 5th 2005 8:54 a.m.
    richard gere's greenhouse

    or

    pop3

    > (the) hamster gazette
    >
    > m.
    >
    >> (the) sprout out
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marisa Olson" <marisa@rhizome.org>
    >> To: <list@rhizome.org>
    >> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 3:49 PM
    >> Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
    >>
    >>
    >>> Dear readers,
    >>>
    >>> I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to change the name
    >>> of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.
    >>>
    >>> As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is currently
    >>> redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in which we are
    >>> thinking about all the recent developments in our field and how
    >>> Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.
    >>>
    >>> On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has been to broaden
    >>> our scope and reach, getting more international in our coverage and
    >>> also covering not only internet art but also software art,
    >>> performance, sound art, data visualization, technology-enabled social
    >>> sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other branches of new
    >>> media practice.
    >>>
    >>> While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title Net Art News
    >>> no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The first and
    >>> simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,' but of course
    >>> this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily looking to split
    >>> hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.' The title
    >>> needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and hopefully also
    >>> inviting.
    >>>
    >>> What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
    >>> If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art News, you can
    >>> look up previous pieces, by month, here:
    >>>
    >>> http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php
    >>>
    >>> With thanks,
    >>> Marisa
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> + + +
    >>> Marisa Olson
    >>> Editor & Curator at Large
    >>> Rhizome.org
    >>>
    >>> +
    >>> -> post: list@rhizome.org
    >>> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
    >>> -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
    >>> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
    >>> +
    >>> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
    >>> Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>
    >> +
    >> -> post: list@rhizome.org
    >> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
    >> -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
    >> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
    >> +
    >> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
    >> Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
    >>
    >>
    >
    > +
    > -> post: list@rhizome.org
    > -> questions: info@rhizome.org
    > -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
    > -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
    > +
    > Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
    > Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
    >
    >
    >
  • marc garrett | Mon Dec 5th 2005 9:17 a.m.
    tomorrow's world
    http://www.simonsingh.com/Tomorrows_World_Article.html

    or

    mediated nutrition
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids!287765&dopt=Citation

    m.

    > richard gere's greenhouse
    >
    > or
    >
    > pop3
    >
    >
    >> (the) hamster gazette
    >>
    >> m.
    >>
    >>> (the) sprout out
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marisa Olson" <marisa@rhizome.org>
    >>> To: <list@rhizome.org>
    >>> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 3:49 PM
    >>> Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>> Dear readers,
    >>>>
    >>>> I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to change the name
    >>>> of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.
    >>>>
    >>>> As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is currently
    >>>> redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in which we are
    >>>> thinking about all the recent developments in our field and how
    >>>> Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.
    >>>>
    >>>> On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has been to broaden
    >>>> our scope and reach, getting more international in our coverage and
    >>>> also covering not only internet art but also software art,
    >>>> performance, sound art, data visualization, technology-enabled social
    >>>> sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other branches of new
    >>>> media practice.
    >>>>
    >>>> While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title Net Art News
    >>>> no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The first and
    >>>> simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,' but of course
    >>>> this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily looking to split
    >>>> hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.' The title
    >>>> needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and hopefully also
    >>>> inviting.
    >>>>
    >>>> What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
    >>>> If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art News, you can
    >>>> look up previous pieces, by month, here:
    >>>>
    >>>> http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php
    >>>>
    >>>> With thanks,
    >>>> Marisa
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> + + +
    >>>> Marisa Olson
    >>>> Editor & Curator at Large
    >>>> Rhizome.org
    >>>>
    >>>> +
    >>>> -> post: list@rhizome.org
    >>>> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
    >>>> -> subscribe/unsubscribe:
    >>>> http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
    >>>> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
    >>>> +
    >>>> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
    >>>> Membership Agreement available online at
    >>>> http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> +
    >>> -> post: list@rhizome.org
    >>> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
    >>> -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
    >>> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
    >>> +
    >>> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
    >>> Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
    >>>
    >>>
    >>
    >> +
    >> -> post: list@rhizome.org
    >> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
    >> -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
    >> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
    >> +
    >> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
    >> Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >
    > +
    > -> post: list@rhizome.org
    > -> questions: info@rhizome.org
    > -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
    > -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
    > +
    > Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
    > Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
    >
    >
  • joy garnett | Mon Dec 5th 2005 9:19 a.m.
    maybe call it... "Download" ??

    ?

    >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marisa Olson" <marisa@rhizome.org>
    > >> To: <list@rhizome.org>
    > >> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 3:49 PM
    > >> Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>> Dear readers,
    > >>>
    > >>> I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to change the name
    > >>> of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.
    > >>>
    > >>> As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is currently
    > >>> redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in which we are
    > >>> thinking about all the recent developments in our field and how
    > >>> Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.
    > >>>
    > >>> On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has been to broaden
    > >>> our scope and reach, getting more international in our coverage and
    > >>> also covering not only internet art but also software art,
    > >>> performance, sound art, data visualization, technology-enabled social
    > >>> sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other branches of new
    > >>> media practice.
    > >>>
    > >>> While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title Net Art News
    > >>> no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The first and
    > >>> simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,' but of course
    > >>> this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily looking to split
    > >>> hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.' The title
    > >>> needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and hopefully also
    > >>> inviting.
    > >>>
    > >>> What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
    > >>> If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art News, you can
    > >>> look up previous pieces, by month, here:
    > >>>
    > >>> http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php
    > >>>
    > >>> With thanks,
    > >>> Marisa
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>> + + +
    > >>> Marisa Olson
    > >>> Editor & Curator at Large
    > >>> Rhizome.org
    > >>>
    > >>> +
    > >>> -> post: list@rhizome.org
    > >>> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
    > >>> -> subscribe/unsubscribe:
    > http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
    > >>> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
    > >>> +
    > >>> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
    > >>> Membership Agreement available online at
    > http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>
    > >> +
    > >> -> post: list@rhizome.org
    > >> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
    > >> -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
    > >> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
    > >> +
    > >> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
    > >> Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
    > >>
    > >>
    > >
    > > +
    > > -> post: list@rhizome.org
    > > -> questions: info@rhizome.org
    > > -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
    > > -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
    > > +
    > > Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
    > > Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    > +
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    > -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
    > +
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    > Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
    >
  • Jack Stenner | Mon Dec 5th 2005 9:22 a.m.
    Rhizomedia

    On Dec 4, 2005, at 4:49 PM, Marisa Olson wrote:

    > Dear readers,
    >
    > I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to change the name
    > of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.
    >
    > As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is currently
    > redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in which we are
    > thinking about all the recent developments in our field and how
    > Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.
    >
    > On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has been to broaden
    > our scope and reach, getting more international in our coverage and
    > also covering not only internet art but also software art,
    > performance, sound art, data visualization, technology-enabled social
    > sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other branches of new
    > media practice.
    >
    > While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title Net Art News
    > no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The first and
    > simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,' but of course
    > this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily looking to split
    > hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.' The title
    > needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and hopefully also
    > inviting.
    >
    > What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
    > If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art News, you can
    > look up previous pieces, by month, here:
    >
    > http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php
    >
    > With thanks,
    > Marisa
    >
    >
    > + + +
    > Marisa Olson
    > Editor & Curator at Large
    > Rhizome.org
    >
    > +
    > -> post: list@rhizome.org
    > -> questions: info@rhizome.org
    > -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/
    > subscribe.rhiz
    > -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
    > +
    > Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
    > Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/
    > 29.php
    >
    >
  • ryan griffis | Mon Dec 5th 2005 9:39 a.m.
    i think the ones below are getting somewhere interesting...

    sprout out (abe)

    pop3 (abe)

    artHive (Dirk)

    Rhizomedia (from Jack Stenner)

    i think i'm kinda into "Rhizomedia"
    ryan

    On Dec 5, 2005, at 9:53 AM, abe linkoln wrote:

    >
    > pop3
    >
    >
    >> (the) hamster gazette
    >> m.
    >>> (the) sprout out
  • Marisa Olson | Mon Dec 5th 2005 1:30 p.m.
    Thanks for your thoughts, Myriam. I'm cc'ing the list, as one can't
    post directly to rare@rhizome.org...

    Marisa

    On 12/5/05, Myriam Thyes <myriam@thyes.com> wrote:
    > Dear Marisa, dear colleagues,
    >
    > why not re-interprete the word NET? I like the word Net Art,
    > though I
  • Marisa Olson | Mon Dec 5th 2005 2:20 p.m.
    thanks!! cc'ing the list...

    On 12/5/05, Simon Biggs <simon@littlepig.org.uk> wrote:
    > Change one letter
    >
    > New Art News
    >
    > Best
    >
    > Simon
    >
    >
    > On 05.12.05 18:24, "Marisa Olson" <marisa@rhizome.org> wrote:
    >
    > >
    > > To view this entire thread, click here:
    > > http://rhizome.org/thread.rhiz?thread560&text7163#37163
    > >
    > > + + +
    > >
    > > Dear readers,
    > >
    > > I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to change the name
    > > of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.
    > >
    > > As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is currently
    > > redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in which we are
    > > thinking about all the recent developments in our field and how
    > > Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.
    > >
    > > On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has been to broaden
    > > our scope and reach, getting more international in our coverage and
    > > also covering not only internet art but also software art,
    > > performance, sound art, data visualization, technology-enabled social
    > > sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other branches of new
    > > media practice.
    > >
    > > While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title Net Art News
    > > no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The first and
    > > simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,' but of course
    > > this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily looking to split
    > > hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.' The title
    > > needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and hopefully also
    > > inviting.
    > >
    > > What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
    > > If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art News, you can
    > > look up previous pieces, by month, here:
    > >
    > > http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php
    > >
    > > With thanks,
    > > Marisa
    > >
    > >
    > > + + +
    > > Marisa Olson
    > > Editor & Curator at Large
    > > Rhizome.org
    > >
    > >
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    > >
    > > Rhizome.org is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization and an affiliate of
    > > the New Museum of Contemporary Art.
    > >
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    >
    >
    > Simon Biggs
    > simon@littlepig.org.uk
    > http://www.littlepig.org.uk/
    >
    > Professor, Art and Design Research Centre
    > Sheffield Hallam University, UK
    > http://www.shu.ac.uk/schools/cs/cri/adrc/research2/
    >
    >
    >
    >
  • M. River | Mon Dec 5th 2005 4:37 p.m.
    > On 12/5/05, Simon Biggs <simon@littlepig.org.uk> wrote:
    > > Change one letter
    > >
    > > New Art News
    > >
    > > Best
    > >
    > > Simon

    like it.

    NAN

    has good graphic look.

    /\
  • ld | Mon Dec 5th 2005 4:46 p.m.
    It would be good if it were renamed using a similar approach to however the name 'Rhizome' was decided on, a name that describes the structures and functions of what is being named instead of labelling them.

    The way some of these suggestions are going, Rhizome would have been named 'Media Art Website'. Although the scope of Net Art News is now large, it shouldn't have to tame itself. I think after all, we're artists, and we should be able to handle a name that's a bit unobvious.

    Luke

    Marisa Olson wrote:

    > Dear readers,
    >
    > I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to change the name
    > of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.
    >
    > As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is currently
    > redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in which we are
    > thinking about all the recent developments in our field and how
    > Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.
    >
    > On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has been to broaden
    > our scope and reach, getting more international in our coverage and
    > also covering not only internet art but also software art,
    > performance, sound art, data visualization, technology-enabled social
    > sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other branches of new
    > media practice.
    >
    > While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title Net Art News
    > no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The first and
    > simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,' but of course
    > this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily looking to split
    > hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.' The title
    > needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and hopefully also
    > inviting.
    >
    > What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
    > If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art News, you can
    > look up previous pieces, by month, here:
    >
    > http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php
    >
    > With thanks,
    > Marisa
    >
    >
    > + + +
    > Marisa Olson
    > Editor & Curator at Large
    > Rhizome.org
    >
  • Marisa Olson | Mon Dec 5th 2005 4:48 p.m.
    The hits keep on coming!

    James Huckenpahler wrote:

    > 3 possible titles, maybe too goofy or opaque...
    >
    > MEDIA EATS ITSELF
    >
    > PING
    >
    > RECURSOR

    And Robbin Murphy, of The Thing sent this fun list of ideas
    contributed by Thingist subscribers, when they were thinking of
    changing the name of bbs.thing.net (I asked Robbin if I could forward
    it given it's historical value!):

    ?ru.thing.net
    [x].thing.net
    404.thing.net
    a.thing.net
    a6v92oq.thing.net
    abstract.thing.net
    ambient.thing.net
    ante.thing.net
    any.thing.net
    are_those_your_real_teeth.thing.net
    ars.thing.net
    art.thing.net
    atomic.thing.net
    authorized_version.thing.net
    big.thing.net
    biplane.thing.net
    blog.thing.net
    boring.thing.net
    boring_again.thing.net
    bourgeois.thing.net
    broken.thing.net
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    byebye.thing.net
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    darwin.thing.net
    das.thing.net
    der-sagin-enkulate-the-foret.thing.net
    door.thing.net
    electric.thing.net
    enter.thing.net
    entitled.thing.net
    every.thing.net
    everylittle.thing.net
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    famous_people_have_better_things_to_do.thing.net
    fatso.thing.net
    feathered.thing.net
    first.thing.net
    foolish.thing.net
    frank_sinatra.thing.net
    free_the_oxford_five.thing.net
    fuckedup.thing.net
    fuckme.thing.net
    fuckyou.thing.net
    funky.thing.net
    fuzzy.thing.net
    gate.thing.net
    getalife.thing.net
    get-into-the-swing-of.thing.net
    glamor.thing.net
    global.thing.net
    go.thing.net
    grand_imperial.thing.net
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    hitme.thing.net
    horseless.thing.net
    hypomnemata.thing.net
    i_havent_the_faintest_idea_what_youre_talking_about.thing.net
    i_saw_the_light_at.thing.net
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    iloveyou.thing.net
    index.thing.net
    industrialstrength.thing.net
    interface.thing.net
    international.thing.net
    iola.thing.net
    isocahedral.thing.net
    jail_the_oxford_five.thing.net
    josh-free.thing.net
    just_a_dream.thing.net
    just_kidding.thing.net
    just-the.thing.net
    kinder_gentler.thing.net
    know.thing.net
    LAFrance.thing.net
    live.thing.net
    living.thing.net
    medicated.thing.net
    miss.thing.net
    model.thing.net
    my.thing.net
    my_dog_ate_my_homework.thing.net
    napoleon.thing.net
    neo.thing.net
    net.thing.net
    nibbly.thing.net
    no.thing.net
    not-a.thing.net
    ohandonemore.thing.net.
    ohthisold.thing.net
    open.thing.net
    our.thing.net
    painless.thing.net
    piano.thing.net
    pizza.thing.net
    platform.thing.net
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    proletariat.thing.net
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    res.thing.net
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    round.thing.net
    rushing.thing.net
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    serious.thing.net
    sexy.thing.net
    she_looked_at_me_and_i_looked_right_back.thing.net
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    single.thing.net
    smelly.thing.net
    so_why_bother.thing.net
    some.thing.net
    soo.thing.net
    source.thing.net
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    sticky.thing.net
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    sugarfree.thing.net
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    swamp.thing.net
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    the_other.thing.net
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    thereal.thing.net
    thing.thing.net
    things.are.changing.thing.net
    thingy.thing.net
    titled.thing.net
    total.thing.net
    toy.thing.net
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    whathehellisthat.thing.net
    what-is-this.thing.net
    when_i_hear_the_word_culture_i_reach_for_my_gun_again.thing.net
    whyamilisteningtogordonlightfoot.thing.net
    wild.thing.net
    wolfgangs.thing.net
    wornout.thing.net
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    your_dog_ate_my_homework.thing.net
  • marc garrett | Mon Dec 5th 2005 7:28 p.m.
    I get where you're coming from, but I have a problem with the term 'new'...

    Why must we conform to the trad-marketing rule, that to have something
    seen as contemporary that it must have the word 'new' in it all of the time?

    I tend to think that using the term 'new' these days, is almost like
    saying 'old'.

    A kind of retro-step backwards to the over-mediated, historical word
    'Modern'- imagine that- then it might as well be instead called of
    'nan', 'man' - 'modern art news', and where would we all be then?

    I feel, that a subtle trick could be used here. I think that it would be
    great to sustain and promote the idea of being 'new' or fresh, but
    without actually saying the word 'new'. That would be cool...

    marc

    > nan - new art news (no caps lock)
    > i like it.
    > gb
    >
    > 2005/12/5, M. River <mriver102@yahoo.com <mailto:mriver102@yahoo.com>>:
    >
    > > On 12/5/05, Simon Biggs <simon@littlepig.org.uk
    > <mailto:simon@littlepig.org.uk>> wrote:
    > > > Change one letter
    > > >
    > > > New Art News
    > > >
    > > > Best
    > > >
    > > > Simon
    >
    >
    > like it.
    >
    > NAN
    >
    > has good graphic look.
    >
    > /\
    > +
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    > -> questions: info@rhizome.org <mailto:info@rhizome.org>
    > -> subscribe/unsubscribe:
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    > +
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    > Membership Agreement available online at
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    >
    >
    >
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    > http://netart.incubadora.fapesp.br/
  • Pall Thayer | Mon Dec 5th 2005 7:45 p.m.
    Yeah, like... something along the lines of "Art Tomorrow" :-)

    best r.
    Art

    On 5.12.2005, at 21:41, marc wrote:

    > I get where you're coming from, but I have a problem with the term
    > 'new'...
    >
    > Why must we conform to the trad-marketing rule, that to have
    > something seen as contemporary that it must have the word 'new' in
    > it all of the time?
    >
    > I tend to think that using the term 'new' these days, is almost
    > like saying 'old'.
    >
    > A kind of retro-step backwards to the over-mediated, historical
    > word 'Modern'- imagine that- then it might as well be instead
    > called of 'nan', 'man' - 'modern art news', and where would we all
    > be then?
    >
    > I feel, that a subtle trick could be used here. I think that it
    > would be great to sustain and promote the idea of being 'new' or
    > fresh, but without actually saying the word 'new'. That would be
    > cool...
    >
    > marc
    >
    >> nan - new art news (no caps lock)
    >> i like it.
    >> gb
    >>
    >> 2005/12/5, M. River <mriver102@yahoo.com
    >> <mailto:mriver102@yahoo.com>>:
    >>
    >> > On 12/5/05, Simon Biggs <simon@littlepig.org.uk
    >> <mailto:simon@littlepig.org.uk>> wrote:
    >> > > Change one letter
    >> > >
    >> > > New Art News
    >> > >
    >> > > Best
    >> > >
    >> > > Simon
    >>
    >>
    >> like it.
    >>
    >> NAN
    >>
    >> has good graphic look.
    >>
    >> /\
    >> +
    >> -> post: list@rhizome.org <mailto:list@rhizome.org>
    >> -> questions: info@rhizome.org <mailto:info@rhizome.org>
    >> -> subscribe/unsubscribe:
    >> http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
    >> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support <http://rhizome.org/support>
    >> +
    >> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
    >> Membership Agreement available online at
    >> http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> --
    >> www.desvirtual.com <http://www.desvirtual.com>
    >> http://netart.incubadora.fapesp.br/
    >
    >
    > +
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    http://www.this.is/pallit
  • marc garrett | Mon Dec 5th 2005 7:48 p.m.
    'Art Tomorrow' is a bit lame...very true :-)

    m.

    > Yeah, like... something along the lines of "Art Tomorrow" :-)
    >
    > best r.
    > Art
    >
    > On 5.12.2005, at 21:41, marc wrote:
    >
    >> I get where you're coming from, but I have a problem with the term
    >> 'new'...
    >>
    >> Why must we conform to the trad-marketing rule, that to have
    >> something seen as contemporary that it must have the word 'new' in
    >> it all of the time?
    >>
    >> I tend to think that using the term 'new' these days, is almost like
    >> saying 'old'.
    >>
    >> A kind of retro-step backwards to the over-mediated, historical word
    >> 'Modern'- imagine that- then it might as well be instead called of
    >> 'nan', 'man' - 'modern art news', and where would we all be then?
    >>
    >> I feel, that a subtle trick could be used here. I think that it
    >> would be great to sustain and promote the idea of being 'new' or
    >> fresh, but without actually saying the word 'new'. That would be
    >> cool...
    >>
    >> marc
    >>
    >>> nan - new art news (no caps lock)
    >>> i like it.
    >>> gb
    >>>
    >>> 2005/12/5, M. River <mriver102@yahoo.com
    >>> <mailto:mriver102@yahoo.com>>:
    >>>
    >>> > On 12/5/05, Simon Biggs <simon@littlepig.org.uk
    >>> <mailto:simon@littlepig.org.uk>> wrote:
    >>> > > Change one letter
    >>> > >
    >>> > > New Art News
    >>> > >
    >>> > > Best
    >>> > >
    >>> > > Simon
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> like it.
    >>>
    >>> NAN
    >>>
    >>> has good graphic look.
    >>>
    >>> /\
    >>> +
    >>> -> post: list@rhizome.org <mailto:list@rhizome.org>
    >>> -> questions: info@rhizome.org <mailto:info@rhizome.org>
    >>> -> subscribe/unsubscribe:
    >>> http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
    >>> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support <http://rhizome.org/support>
    >>> +
    >>> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
    >>> Membership Agreement available online at
    >>> http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> www.desvirtual.com <http://www.desvirtual.com>
    >>> http://netart.incubadora.fapesp.br/
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> +
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    >> +
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    >
    >
    > --
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    > http://www.this.is/pallit
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
  • Pall Thayer | Mon Dec 5th 2005 8:01 p.m.
    I like it. Sounds like something that would go well with glittery
    golden vinyl upholstery and fake leopard skin pillows... and a martini.

    From the desk of:
    ****Art Tomorrow****

    On 5.12.2005, at 22:01, marc wrote:

    > 'Art Tomorrow' is a bit lame...very true :-)
    >
    > m.
    >
    >
    >> Yeah, like... something along the lines of "Art Tomorrow" :-)
    >>
    >> best r.
    >> Art
    >>
    >> On 5.12.2005, at 21:41, marc wrote:
    >>
    >>> I get where you're coming from, but I have a problem with the
    >>> term 'new'...
    >>>
    >>> Why must we conform to the trad-marketing rule, that to have
    >>> something seen as contemporary that it must have the word 'new'
    >>> in it all of the time?
    >>>
    >>> I tend to think that using the term 'new' these days, is almost
    >>> like saying 'old'.
    >>>
    >>> A kind of retro-step backwards to the over-mediated, historical
    >>> word 'Modern'- imagine that- then it might as well be instead
    >>> called of 'nan', 'man' - 'modern art news', and where would we
    >>> all be then?
    >>>
    >>> I feel, that a subtle trick could be used here. I think that it
    >>> would be great to sustain and promote the idea of being 'new' or
    >>> fresh, but without actually saying the word 'new'. That would be
    >>> cool...
    >>>
    >>> marc
    >>>
    >>>> nan - new art news (no caps lock)
    >>>> i like it.
    >>>> gb
    >>>>
    >>>> 2005/12/5, M. River <mriver102@yahoo.com
    >>>> <mailto:mriver102@yahoo.com>>:
    >>>>
    >>>> > On 12/5/05, Simon Biggs <simon@littlepig.org.uk
    >>>> <mailto:simon@littlepig.org.uk>> wrote:
    >>>> > > Change one letter
    >>>> > >
    >>>> > > New Art News
    >>>> > >
    >>>> > > Best
    >>>> > >
    >>>> > > Simon
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> like it.
    >>>>
    >>>> NAN
    >>>>
    >>>> has good graphic look.
    >>>>
    >>>> /\
    >>>> +
    >>>> -> post: list@rhizome.org <mailto:list@rhizome.org>
    >>>> -> questions: info@rhizome.org <mailto:info@rhizome.org>
    >>>> -> subscribe/unsubscribe:
    >>>> http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
    >>>> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support <http://rhizome.org/
    >>>> support>
    >>>> +
    >>>> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
    >>>> Membership Agreement available online at
    >>>> http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
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    >>>>
    >>>>
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    >>>> --
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    >>>> http://netart.incubadora.fapesp.br/
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> +
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    >>> +
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    >>> 29.php
    >>>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> --
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    >> p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca
    >> http://www.this.is/pallit
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
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  • marc garrett | Mon Dec 5th 2005 8:05 p.m.
    so are you saying that's how rhizome wishes to be seen as- glittery
    golden vinyl upholstery and fake leopard skin pillows... ?

    mmm...
    now that you mention it- I wouldn't mind some fake leopard skin pillows
    actually, and some fluffy white dice :-)

    marc

    > I like it. Sounds like something that would go well with glittery
    > golden vinyl upholstery and fake leopard skin pillows... and a martini.
    >
    > From the desk of:
    > ****Art Tomorrow****
    >
    > On 5.12.2005, at 22:01, marc wrote:
    >
    >> 'Art Tomorrow' is a bit lame...very true :-)
    >>
    >> m.
    >>
    >>
    >>> Yeah, like... something along the lines of "Art Tomorrow" :-)
    >>>
    >>> best r.
    >>> Art
    >>>
    >>> On 5.12.2005, at 21:41, marc wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> I get where you're coming from, but I have a problem with the
    >>>> term 'new'...
    >>>>
    >>>> Why must we conform to the trad-marketing rule, that to have
    >>>> something seen as contemporary that it must have the word 'new'
    >>>> in it all of the time?
    >>>>
    >>>> I tend to think that using the term 'new' these days, is almost
    >>>> like saying 'old'.
    >>>>
    >>>> A kind of retro-step backwards to the over-mediated, historical
    >>>> word 'Modern'- imagine that- then it might as well be instead
    >>>> called of 'nan', 'man' - 'modern art news', and where would we
    >>>> all be then?
    >>>>
    >>>> I feel, that a subtle trick could be used here. I think that it
    >>>> would be great to sustain and promote the idea of being 'new' or
    >>>> fresh, but without actually saying the word 'new'. That would be
    >>>> cool...
    >>>>
    >>>> marc
    >>>>
    >>>>> nan - new art news (no caps lock)
    >>>>> i like it.
    >>>>> gb
    >>>>>
    >>>>> 2005/12/5, M. River <mriver102@yahoo.com
    >>>>> <mailto:mriver102@yahoo.com>>:
    >>>>>
    >>>>> > On 12/5/05, Simon Biggs <simon@littlepig.org.uk
    >>>>> <mailto:simon@littlepig.org.uk>> wrote:
    >>>>> > > Change one letter
    >>>>> > >
    >>>>> > > New Art News
    >>>>> > >
    >>>>> > > Best
    >>>>> > >
    >>>>> > > Simon
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> like it.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> NAN
    >>>>>
    >>>>> has good graphic look.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> /\
    >>>>> +
    >>>>> -> post: list@rhizome.org <mailto:list@rhizome.org>
    >>>>> -> questions: info@rhizome.org <mailto:info@rhizome.org>
    >>>>> -> subscribe/unsubscribe:
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    >>>>> +
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    >>>>> Membership Agreement available online at
    >>>>> http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> --
    >>>>> www.desvirtual.com <http://www.desvirtual.com>
    >>>>> http://netart.incubadora.fapesp.br/
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> +
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    >>>
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    >>> --
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    >
  • Andrei Thomaz | Mon Dec 5th 2005 8:29 p.m.
    i really don't like the "futuristic names"... It is just if something
    could be better only because it uses high technology. If somebody
    works with Atari videogames from 80's, would can this work be
    published under the title "new art news" ?

    And "net" (and things like that) has a point: it puts the question of
    connection and of rhizome above the futuristic and technologic ones
    ;-)

    excuse me for bad english,
    andrei

    On 12/6/05, marc <marc.garrett@furtherfield.org> wrote:
    > so are you saying that's how rhizome wishes to be seen as- glittery
    > golden vinyl upholstery and fake leopard skin pillows... ?
    >
    > mmm...
    > now that you mention it- I wouldn't mind some fake leopard skin pillows
    > actually, and some fluffy white dice :-)
    >
    > marc
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > I like it. Sounds like something that would go well with glittery
    > > golden vinyl upholstery and fake leopard skin pillows... and a martini.
    > >
    > > From the desk of:
    > > ****Art Tomorrow****
    > >
    > > On 5.12.2005, at 22:01, marc wrote:
    > >
    > >> 'Art Tomorrow' is a bit lame...very true :-)
    > >>
    > >> m.
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>> Yeah, like... something along the lines of "Art Tomorrow" :-)
    > >>>
    > >>> best r.
    > >>> Art
    > >>>
    > >>> On 5.12.2005, at 21:41, marc wrote:
    > >>>
    > >>>> I get where you're coming from, but I have a problem with the
    > >>>> term 'new'...
    > >>>>
    > >>>> Why must we conform to the trad-marketing rule, that to have
    > >>>> something seen as contemporary that it must have the word 'new'
    > >>>> in it all of the time?
    > >>>>
    > >>>> I tend to think that using the term 'new' these days, is almost
    > >>>> like saying 'old'.
    > >>>>
    > >>>> A kind of retro-step backwards to the over-mediated, historical
    > >>>> word 'Modern'- imagine that- then it might as well be instead
    > >>>> called of 'nan', 'man' - 'modern art news', and where would we
    > >>>> all be then?
    > >>>>
    > >>>> I feel, that a subtle trick could be used here. I think that it
    > >>>> would be great to sustain and promote the idea of being 'new' or
    > >>>> fresh, but without actually saying the word 'new'. That would be
    > >>>> cool...
    > >>>>
    > >>>> marc
    > >>>>
    > >>>>> nan - new art news (no caps lock)
    > >>>>> i like it.
    > >>>>> gb
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> 2005/12/5, M. River <mriver102@yahoo.com
    > >>>>> <mailto:mriver102@yahoo.com>>:
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> > On 12/5/05, Simon Biggs <simon@littlepig.org.uk
    > >>>>> <mailto:simon@littlepig.org.uk>> wrote:
    > >>>>> > > Change one letter
    > >>>>> > >
    > >>>>> > > New Art News
    > >>>>> > >
    > >>>>> > > Best
    > >>>>> > >
    > >>>>> > > Simon
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> like it.
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> NAN
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> has good graphic look.
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> /\
    > >>>>> +
    > >>>>> -> post: list@rhizome.org <mailto:list@rhizome.org>
    > >>>>> -> questions: info@rhizome.org <mailto:info@rhizome.org>
    > >>>>> -> subscribe/unsubscribe:
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    > >>>>> +
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    > >>>>> Membership Agreement available online at
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    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> --
    > >>>>> www.desvirtual.com <http://www.desvirtual.com>
    > >>>>> http://netart.incubadora.fapesp.br/
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    > >>>
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    > >>> p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca
    > >>> http://www.this.is/pallit
    > >>>
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  • Pall Thayer | Tue Dec 6th 2005 8:24 p.m.
    I don't know what you mean. Who _wouldn't_ want to be seen as
    glittery golden vinyl upholstery and fake leopard skin pillows? I
    also feel that Rhizome should move their headquarters into a bowling
    alley and organize monthly fund-raising bowl-a-thons called "Bowling
    for Bytes" and once a year use the proceeds to invite all the members
    to a weekend bash in Tijuana.

    Art Tomorrow

    On 5.12.2005, at 22:19, marc wrote:

    > so are you saying that's how rhizome wishes to be seen as-
    > glittery golden vinyl upholstery and fake leopard skin pillows... ?
    >
    > mmm...
    > now that you mention it- I wouldn't mind some fake leopard skin
    > pillows actually, and some fluffy white dice :-)
    >
    > marc
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >> I like it. Sounds like something that would go well with glittery
    >> golden vinyl upholstery and fake leopard skin pillows... and a
    >> martini.
    >>
    >> From the desk of:
    >> ****Art Tomorrow****
    >>
    >> On 5.12.2005, at 22:01, marc wrote:
    >>
    >>> 'Art Tomorrow' is a bit lame...very true :-)
    >>>
    >>> m.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>> Yeah, like... something along the lines of "Art Tomorrow" :-)
    >>>>
    >>>> best r.
    >>>> Art
    >>>>
    >>>> On 5.12.2005, at 21:41, marc wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> I get where you're coming from, but I have a problem with the
    >>>>> term 'new'...
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Why must we conform to the trad-marketing rule, that to have
    >>>>> something seen as contemporary that it must have the word
    >>>>> 'new' in it all of the time?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I tend to think that using the term 'new' these days, is
    >>>>> almost like saying 'old'.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> A kind of retro-step backwards to the over-mediated,
    >>>>> historical word 'Modern'- imagine that- then it might as well
    >>>>> be instead called of 'nan', 'man' - 'modern art news', and
    >>>>> where would we all be then?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I feel, that a subtle trick could be used here. I think that
    >>>>> it would be great to sustain and promote the idea of being
    >>>>> 'new' or fresh, but without actually saying the word 'new'.
    >>>>> That would be cool...
    >>>>>
    >>>>> marc
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> nan - new art news (no caps lock)
    >>>>>> i like it.
    >>>>>> gb
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> 2005/12/5, M. River <mriver102@yahoo.com
    >>>>>> <mailto:mriver102@yahoo.com>>:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> > On 12/5/05, Simon Biggs <simon@littlepig.org.uk
    >>>>>> <mailto:simon@littlepig.org.uk>> wrote:
    >>>>>> > > Change one letter
    >>>>>> > >
    >>>>>> > > New Art News
    >>>>>> > >
    >>>>>> > > Best
    >>>>>> > >
    >>>>>> > > Simon
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> like it.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> NAN
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> has good graphic look.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> /\
    >>>>>> +
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    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> --
    >>>>>> www.desvirtual.com <http://www.desvirtual.com>
    >>>>>> http://netart.incubadora.fapesp.br/
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> +
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    >>>>
    >>>> --
    >>>> Pall Thayer
    >>>> p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca
    >>>> http://www.this.is/pallit
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> +
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    >> http://www.this.is/pallit
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  • ryan griffis | Tue Dec 6th 2005 9:24 p.m.
    in that case... the office should be called "the rhizoom-zoom room"
    ryan
    On Dec 6, 2005, at 9:24 PM, Pall Thayer wrote:

    > I don't know what you mean. Who _wouldn't_ want to be seen as glittery
    > golden vinyl upholstery and fake leopard skin pillows? I also feel
    > that Rhizome should move their headquarters into a bowling alley and
    > organize monthly fund-raising bowl-a-thons called "Bowling for Bytes"
    > and once a year use the proceeds to invite all the members to a
    > weekend bash in Tijuana.
    >
    > Art Tomorrow
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
  • Pall Thayer | Tue Dec 6th 2005 9:31 p.m.
    That rocks

    and net art news can be "the rhizoom-zoom room tribune"

    On 6.12.2005, at 23:23, Ryan Griffis wrote:

    > in that case... the office should be called "the rhizoom-zoom room"
    > ryan
    > On Dec 6, 2005, at 9:24 PM, Pall Thayer wrote:
    >
    >> I don't know what you mean. Who _wouldn't_ want to be seen as
    >> glittery golden vinyl upholstery and fake leopard skin pillows? I
    >> also feel that Rhizome should move their headquarters into a
    >> bowling alley and organize monthly fund-raising bowl-a-thons
    >> called "Bowling for Bytes" and once a year use the proceeds to
    >> invite all the members to a weekend bash in Tijuana.
    >>
    >> Art Tomorrow
    >>>>>>>>
    >
    > +
    > -> post: list@rhizome.org
    > -> questions: info@rhizome.org
    > -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/
    > subscribe.rhiz
    > -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
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  • Roman Minaev | Tue Dec 6th 2005 11:47 p.m.
    I personally would prefer NO REASON ART NEWS
  • Jim Andrews | Sun Dec 11th 2005 5:05 a.m.
    Fresh Ice

    ja?
  • Jonah Brucker-Cohen | Sun Dec 11th 2005 11:37 a.m.
    I think we should rename Net Art News:

    "PLEASE DO NOT SPAM ART"

    That would definitely get the point across
    jbc
  • annie abrahams | Mon Dec 12th 2005 3:15 a.m.
    playing with abe's suggestion :

    sprOUTs
  • ryan griffis | Mon Dec 12th 2005 12:24 p.m.
    i think this is my favorite so far.
    ryan

    On Dec 12, 2005, at 4:15 AM, aabrahams wrote:

    > playing with abe's suggestion :
    >
    > sprOUTs
    >
    >
  • Dirk Vekemans | Mon Dec 12th 2005 12:54 p.m.
    Yep, anything from Brussels will do :-)
    dv

    > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
    > Van: owner-list@rhizome.org [mailto:owner-list@rhizome.org]
    > Namens Ryan Griffis
    > Verzonden: maandag 12 december 2005 20:25
    > Aan: rhizome
    > Onderwerp: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
    >
    > i think this is my favorite so far.
    > ryan
    >
    > On Dec 12, 2005, at 4:15 AM, aabrahams wrote:
    >
    > > playing with abe's suggestion :
    > >
    > > sprOUTs
    > >
    > >
    >
    > +
    > -> post: list@rhizome.org
    > -> questions: info@rhizome.org
    > -> subscribe/unsubscribe:
    > http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
    > -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
    > +
    > Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in
    > the Membership Agreement available online at
    > http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
    >
  • Pall Thayer | Mon Dec 12th 2005 1:07 p.m.
    I thought sprouts came from alpha-alpha

    Pall

    On 12.12.2005, at 14:54, Dirk Vekemans wrote:

    > Yep, anything from Brussels will do :-)
    > dv
    >
    >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
    >> Van: owner-list@rhizome.org [mailto:owner-list@rhizome.org]
    >> Namens Ryan Griffis
    >> Verzonden: maandag 12 december 2005 20:25
    >> Aan: rhizome
    >> Onderwerp: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
    >>
    >> i think this is my favorite so far.
    >> ryan
    >>
    >> On Dec 12, 2005, at 4:15 AM, aabrahams wrote:
    >>
    >>> playing with abe's suggestion :
    >>>
    >>> sprOUTs
    >>>
    >>>
    >>
    >> +
    >> -> post: list@rhizome.org
    >> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
    >> -> subscribe/unsubscribe:
    >> http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
    >> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
    >> +
    >> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in
    >> the Membership Agreement available online at
    >> http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
    >>
    >
    >
    > +
    > -> post: list@rhizome.org
    > -> questions: info@rhizome.org
    > -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/
    > subscribe.rhiz
    > -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
    > +
    > Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
    > Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/
    > 29.php
    >

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  • Dirk Vekemans | Mon Dec 12th 2005 1:16 p.m.
    Nono, you're talking andives, no relation whatsoever...
    dv

    > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
    > Van: Pall Thayer [mailto:p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca]
    > Verzonden: maandag 12 december 2005 21:07
    > Aan: Dirk Vekemans
    > CC: 'Ryan Griffis'; 'rhizome'
    > Onderwerp: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
    >
    > I thought sprouts came from alpha-alpha
    >
    > Pall
    >
    > On 12.12.2005, at 14:54, Dirk Vekemans wrote:
    >
    > > Yep, anything from Brussels will do :-) dv
    > >
    > >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
    > >> Van: owner-list@rhizome.org [mailto:owner-list@rhizome.org] Namens
    > >> Ryan Griffis
    > >> Verzonden: maandag 12 december 2005 20:25
    > >> Aan: rhizome
    > >> Onderwerp: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
    > >>
    > >> i think this is my favorite so far.
    > >> ryan
    > >>
    > >> On Dec 12, 2005, at 4:15 AM, aabrahams wrote:
    > >>
    > >>> playing with abe's suggestion :
    > >>>
    > >>> sprOUTs
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>
    > >> +
    > >> -> post: list@rhizome.org
    > >> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
    > >> -> subscribe/unsubscribe:
    > >> http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
    > >> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
    > >> +
    > >> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
    > >> Membership Agreement available online at
    > >> http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
    > >>
    > >
    > >
    > > +
    > > -> post: list@rhizome.org
    > > -> questions: info@rhizome.org
    > > -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/
    > > subscribe.rhiz
    > > -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
    > > +
    > > Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
    > > Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/
    > > 29.php
    > >
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    > Pall Thayer
    > p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca
    > http://www.this.is/pallit
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
  • Pall Thayer | Mon Dec 12th 2005 2:05 p.m.
    Oh good. Does that mean I can stop wondering where the hell alpha-
    alpha is?

    Pall
    On 12.12.2005, at 15:16, Dirk Vekemans wrote:

    > Nono, you're talking andives, no relation whatsoever...
    > dv
    >
    >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
    >> Van: Pall Thayer [mailto:p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca]
    >> Verzonden: maandag 12 december 2005 21:07
    >> Aan: Dirk Vekemans
    >> CC: 'Ryan Griffis'; 'rhizome'
    >> Onderwerp: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
    >>
    >> I thought sprouts came from alpha-alpha
    >>
    >> Pall
    >>
    >> On 12.12.2005, at 14:54, Dirk Vekemans wrote:
    >>
    >>> Yep, anything from Brussels will do :-) dv
    >>>
    >>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
    >>>> Van: owner-list@rhizome.org [mailto:owner-list@rhizome.org] Namens
    >>>> Ryan Griffis
    >>>> Verzonden: maandag 12 december 2005 20:25
    >>>> Aan: rhizome
    >>>> Onderwerp: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
    >>>>
    >>>> i think this is my favorite so far.
    >>>> ryan
    >>>>
    >>>> On Dec 12, 2005, at 4:15 AM, aabrahams wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> playing with abe's suggestion :
    >>>>>
    >>>>> sprOUTs
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> +
    >>>> -> post: list@rhizome.org
    >>>> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
    >>>> -> subscribe/unsubscribe:
    >>>> http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
    >>>> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
    >>>> +
    >>>> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
    >>>> Membership Agreement available online at
    >>>> http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> +
    >>> -> post: list@rhizome.org
    >>> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
    >>> -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/
    >>> subscribe.rhiz
    >>> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
    >>> +
    >>> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
    >>> Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/
    >>> 29.php
    >>>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> --
    >> Pall Thayer
    >> p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca
    >> http://www.this.is/pallit
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >
    >

    --
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    p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca
    http://www.this.is/pallit
  • Dirk Vekemans | Mon Dec 12th 2005 3:48 p.m.
    Well i did when i ate them.
    dv

    > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
    > Van: Pall Thayer [mailto:p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca]
    > Verzonden: maandag 12 december 2005 22:05
    > Aan: dv@vilt.net
    > CC: 'Ryan Griffis'; 'rhizome'
    > Onderwerp: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
    >
    > Oh good. Does that mean I can stop wondering where the hell
    > alpha- alpha is?
    >
    > Pall
    > On 12.12.2005, at 15:16, Dirk Vekemans wrote:
    >
    > > Nono, you're talking andives, no relation whatsoever...
    > > dv
    > >
    > >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
    > >> Van: Pall Thayer [mailto:p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca]
    > >> Verzonden: maandag 12 december 2005 21:07
    > >> Aan: Dirk Vekemans
    > >> CC: 'Ryan Griffis'; 'rhizome'
    > >> Onderwerp: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
    > >>
    > >> I thought sprouts came from alpha-alpha
    > >>
    > >> Pall
    > >>
    > >> On 12.12.2005, at 14:54, Dirk Vekemans wrote:
    > >>
    > >>> Yep, anything from Brussels will do :-) dv
    > >>>
    > >>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
    > >>>> Van: owner-list@rhizome.org
    > [mailto:owner-list@rhizome.org] Namens
    > >>>> Ryan Griffis
    > >>>> Verzonden: maandag 12 december 2005 20:25
    > >>>> Aan: rhizome
    > >>>> Onderwerp: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
    > >>>>
    > >>>> i think this is my favorite so far.
    > >>>> ryan
    > >>>>
    > >>>> On Dec 12, 2005, at 4:15 AM, aabrahams wrote:
    > >>>>
    > >>>>> playing with abe's suggestion :
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> sprOUTs
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>
    > >>>> +
    > >>>> -> post: list@rhizome.org
    > >>>> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
    > >>>> -> subscribe/unsubscribe:
    > >>>> http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
    > >>>> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
    > >>>> +
    > >>>> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
    > >>>> Membership Agreement available online at
    > >>>> http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
    > >>>>
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>> +
    > >>> -> post: list@rhizome.org
    > >>> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
    > >>> -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/
    > >>> subscribe.rhiz
    > >>> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
    > >>> +
    > >>> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
    > >>> Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/
    > >>> 29.php
    > >>>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> --
    > >> Pall Thayer
    > >> p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca
    > >> http://www.this.is/pallit
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    > Pall Thayer
    > p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca
    > http://www.this.is/pallit
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
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