Ivan and Matthew
I agree that this piece might serve well as a starting point for critique -
only I would ask not "How is this art?" but "How is this unlike commerce?"
I'm curious about how exactly this work will differ from the dreams of
telepresence marketed by the telecom industry. Is 24-7 telepresent
connection the pure fulfillment of these dreams, or, like Marinetti's car
crashed in the ditch, an absurd manifestation that reveals their inevitable
From the proposal and description, I suspect that it's more the former than
the latter - though even with Marinetti it's hard to tell. The project could
perhaps learn a bit from Tehching Hsieh and Linda Montano, who lived
together for a year tied by a short rope. (I always heard that they ended up
requiring legal mediation.) There is plenty sinister in companionship, and
plenty of obstacles to connection in even the clearest line.
I'll be following with interest.
On 3/2/05 3:41 PM, "Matthew Mascotte" <email@example.com
> I see no difference in how the project is being
> established and all the other moblogs/podcasts
> out there both in terms of content and concept.
> i'm questioning why pod pals has been
> elevated to the status of art... Turbulence funding
> and a Net Art News review is what I mean by important it
> has been contextualized into the Art scene before its
> even happened and as far as i can tell its gonna
> operate just like a mom and pop blog.
> A running critique throughout the project's run
> (especially a formalist one) would be very interesting indeed...
> I'm game if you are.
> On Wednesday, March 02, 2005, at 04:24PM, Ivan Pope <firstname.lastname@example.org
>> Is this a question you always ask about art, or does this bother you for
>> some reason? Why does it have to be 'important'? Why do you think we are
>> being asked to 'contemplate'?
>> We can do an online crit if you like, might be fun?
>> Matthew Mascotte wrote:
>>> i'm wondering where the Pod Pals project fits into the
>>> overall scheme of things. ok, the project calls attention
>>> to the importance of digital gear in our daily lives
>>> and is utilizing popular modes of connectivity (podcasts,
>>> inNetworks, etc) but is the material recently haked from
>>> Ms. Hilton's cell phone Art? As significant (and cool) as Mandiberg
>>> and Steinmetz are what is it about their upcoming moblog/podcast
>>> and emails that is important? What exaclty are we being
>>> asked to contemplate here? Not the content of the
>>> project (nothing has been made yet really) and as far as the
>>> conceptual plan is concerned I don't see how what they're doing is
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