That's why I posted the weather links. They actually try to get
it all to work reasonably well in a variety of circumstances.
Note when I explain weather stuff to Junior High students I usually
have made a journey around the various public facilities to see
of things work in various places. I mean one has to consider that
not all folks in their early teens have a computer and can tweak
things as needed. I do note sometimes adults give up prematurely.
They throw up their hands very easily and just give up, when just
a few things would have got them what they wanted. Giggle, medical
people are the worst in this regard I have found so far. They are
also the worst at listening to the advice of others. But I do digress
and besides that could be just my experience.
In general it is nice to have things work across platforms and across
browsers and hopefully if even moderately daunting tweaks are spelled
out and various factors are taken into consideration.
It is understandable that things don't work on all things and
all cicumstances. But sometimes the disregard is pretty arrogant
but that I saw coming from the commercial sector or the wannabe
commercial sector. There was a site called "Dimestore Productions"
and it was pretty slanted to the latest and greatest. If you were
caught in some place like West Virginia you were pretty much out of
luck if you wanted to use the innovations the webmaster seemed to be
installing. He was pretty arrogant about it too. This is what I don't
like to see done. When people get very callous about getting things
to work. I know to some folks these are grungy little details best
left to "those who deal with such" but they are as important.
> apologies - house full of ill children and I'm trailing behind the
>> so, if you want to use flash, that's cool. but just do it having
>> decided to make your work for folks on IE/winXP and not the web in
>> general. in fact, i can't think of anything that works well locally
>> AND the web. even Java acts more differently on different platforms
>> than they admit. But we have always assumed, if we make it for the
>> web, it should work everywhere. very little actually does.
> Is it true that *we* always have assumed that it will work everywhere?
> Limitations set by
> software, viewers hardware, connections speed, plug-ins have always had to
> be a
> consideration for artists no matter which platform they themselves
> favoured. Have artists
> really believed that a work was globally accessible simply because it was
> on the net?
> When I first starting making work for the I used to get it in the neck
> for 'proofing' work
> on lists to check what problems people had. The response form the *net.art
> department* was that I should now these things before I started if I was
> doing things
> 'properly' (always seemed mildly patronizing). I do proof them myself now
> on various
> systems but I don't think I pick up as many issues as I did when I asked
> others to look - I
> simply can't know all the variables. My observation is that a majority
> of artists seem
> well aware of the viewing issue inherent on the web and respond in a
> number of
> different ways. Many appear to 'spread' their work amougst a variety of
> formats that will
> make a certain amount accessible to each group in the knowledge that very
> little will be
> accessible to all. It seems a bigger problem for artists who will only
> produce work using
> one particular technique, but what do you say to them - diversify?
> My feeling generally it that it still bandwidth (particularly outside the
> US) that is the
> primary mediator to what people can and cannot view rather than browser.
> With the
> extension onto PDA's etc this is even more of an issue. I know viewing
> work on a pda for
> the first time for me was a wake-up call - like jumping back 6 years where
> i waited
> patiently on the end of a dodgy dial-up to view works I was told were
> A best I would say that the all that is possible is to recommend a
> particular browser or
> connection speed but know that you may never be able to do enough to be
> to all. The rise of adware and the necessity for anti-spam/pop-ups, raised
> security has restricted previously accessible work unless you are happy to
> your browser in response to each site. As I said, I also use firefox and
> safari on a mac
> as well as IE on a pc and these issues seem affect all equally.
> I went to look at a friends stunning VRML datascapes the otherday, changed
> downloaded the software I needed, tweaked various settings and then my
> was too slow and it all fell over. Would you argue that he should he stop
> making them?
> I'm interested in your thoughts in this, not trying to be pedantic:)
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