TO IDIOTS

Posted by manik vauda marija manik nikola pilipovic | Wed Mar 17th 2004 4:53 p.m.

To all Rhizomers:
Tonight Shiptar's(Kosovo Albanians) terrorist killed Serbs in Kosovo.As the=
ir Master's Americans(1999 from air) they do that like beast:thousand of Sh=
iptars killed Serbs civilian's(unarmed,without international protection).De=
stroyed orthodox churches,Serb's houses...
We called all (fools) humanitarian on Rhizome to keep Joy(or whatever his/h=
er name is with his stupid and idiotic painting with his pathetic glory) an=
d pay they precious attention to next:
America produced terrorism!
Responsibility for all victims is Americans!
It's time to see killer ayes.
Killer is U.S.A!

MADRID=KOSOVO=BAGHDAD

So,is there anyone to denied this acclaim?

MANIK
  • Roman Minaev | Wed Mar 17th 2004 5:44 p.m.
    Americans and bikers are guilty of murder.

    m> To all Rhizomers:
    m> Tonight Shiptar's(Kosovo Albanians) terrorist killed Serbs in Kosovo.As their Master's Americans(1999 from air) they do that like beast:thousand of Shiptars killed Serbs civilian's(unarmed,without
    m> international protection).Destroyed orthodox churches,Serb's houses...
    m> We called all (fools) humanitarian on Rhizome to keep Joy(or whatever his/her name is with his stupid and idiotic painting with his pathetic glory) and pay they precious attention to next:
    m> America produced terrorism!
    m> Responsibility for all victims is Americans!
    m> It's time to see killer ayes.
    m> Killer is U.S.A!

    m> MADRID=KOSOVO
  • joseph mcelroy | Wed Mar 17th 2004 6:04 p.m.
    You are scared and seek to scare, the resolution of which is pain and destruction... little men with fists beating their chests like chimps, thowing bombs like monkeys, spitting words like snakes, dying for causes like nags. All are small.... in the USA and Out.

    Stop being scared and trying to scare.

    joseph

    nikola pilipovic wrote:

    > To all Rhizomers:
    > Tonight Shiptar's(Kosovo Albanians) terrorist killed Serbs in
    > Kosovo.As the=
    > ir Master's Americans(1999 from air) they do that like beast:thousand
    > of Sh=
    > iptars killed Serbs civilian's(unarmed,without international
    > protection).De=
    > stroyed orthodox churches,Serb's houses...
    > We called all (fools) humanitarian on Rhizome to keep Joy(or whatever
    > his/h=
    > er name is with his stupid and idiotic painting with his pathetic
    > glory) an=
    > d pay they precious attention to next:
    > America produced terrorism!
    > Responsibility for all victims is Americans!
    > It's time to see killer ayes.
    > Killer is U.S.A!
    >
    > MADRID=KOSOVO=BAGHDAD
    >
    > So,is there anyone to denied this acclaim?
    >
    > MANIK
  • manik vauda marija manik nikola pilipovic | Wed Mar 17th 2004 6:12 p.m.
    This with bikers is so stupid and old,so allow us to be shamed for you.And
    your stupid "SPAM" is deadly boring.
    It's very hard to communicate with people with deep psychic complex as you
    are.Watch news,you insignificant piece of shit!
    MANIK
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "trashconnection" <www@trashconnection.com>
    To: "manik" <manik@ptt.yu>; <list@rhizome.org>
    Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 10:44 PM
    Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: TO IDIOTS

    > Americans and bikers are guilty of murder.
    >
    > m> To all Rhizomers:
    > m> Tonight Shiptar's(Kosovo Albanians) terrorist killed Serbs in Kosovo.As
    their Master's Americans(1999 from air) they do that like beast:thousand of
    Shiptars killed Serbs civilian's(unarmed,without
    > m> international protection).Destroyed orthodox churches,Serb's houses...
    > m> We called all (fools) humanitarian on Rhizome to keep Joy(or whatever
    his/her name is with his stupid and idiotic painting with his pathetic
    glory) and pay they precious attention to next:
    > m> America produced terrorism!
    > m> Responsibility for all victims is Americans!
    > m> It's time to see killer ayes.
    > m> Killer is U.S.A!
    >
    > m> MADRID=KOSOVO
  • manik vauda marija manik nikola pilipovic | Wed Mar 17th 2004 7:21 p.m.
    >You are scared and seek to scare, the resolution of which is pain and
    destruction... little men with fists beating their chests like chimps,
    thowing bombs like
    >monkeys, spitting words like snakes, dying for causes like nags. All are
    small.... in the USA and Out.

    >Stop being scared and trying to scare.

    >joseph
    Your words are almost intelligent.But,obviously you don't read MANIK's
    txt.Be kind and read that snakes words below.
    And(we don't need anything else to tell you Joseph,buy!)we want to add
    instead U.S.A----U.S.A ADMINISTRATION.That mean not,repeat,not all American
    people.
    So,...next?
    MANIK

    Date is 2 March 2004;2,16PM-Rhizome_Raw

    "Every philosopher thinking about dead and how to die."(Platon)

    Brain,as a scientifically constructed object,could not be anything else
    except
    object for education and created mind in general sense:gnosis and praxis.
    Knowledge,power and I are triple root of mind problematization.But,based on
    knowledge,as a problem,thinking mean to look,and to speak.Mind is in
    disjunction between locking and talking.Every time we hawed to find their
    relation.
    Gnostic have only one argument against skeptic;skeptic indifference is fools
    when they chose bread instead rock for food.That argument make the world go
    around-permanent production from food to weapon...Word ethic is something
    like ghost- body supporting life and compromise all history of ,so
    called,
  • Michael Szpakowski | Wed Mar 17th 2004 7:42 p.m.
    <..And
    your stupid "SPAM" is deadly boring...Watch news,you
    insignificant piece of shit!>
    Gosh - those guys certainly can construct a cogent and
    devasting argument!
    I don't have any beef with the assertion that Serbs
    have been victims in Kossovo and other areas of former
    Yugoslavia -it's clearly true, certainly so since
    US/UK intervention, although asking us to believe that
    there was no organized, regime led persecution of the
    Kossovan Albanians under the old regime is pushing it
    just a little.
    What I object to (and manik would like us to believe
    that this is a necessary consequence of the above,
    which it isn't) is their nasty and petty national
    chauvinism and anti Albanian racism.
    I don't think racism ,of whatever form, should have
    any place on this list. How long would it be tolerated
    if African Americans or Bengalis or Jews were spoken
    of in the terms manik used in their original post?(
    which I see they have helpfully appended to their
    reply to Joseph - take a look. )
    I hope not long.
    michael

    > MANIK
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "trashconnection" <www@trashconnection.com>
    > To: "manik" <manik@ptt.yu>; <list@rhizome.org>
    > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 10:44 PM
    > Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: TO IDIOTS
    >
    >
    > > Americans and bikers are guilty of murder.
    > >
    > > m> To all Rhizomers:
    > > m> Tonight Shiptar's(Kosovo Albanians) terrorist
    > killed Serbs in Kosovo.As
    > their Master's Americans(1999 from air) they do that
    > like beast:thousand of
    > Shiptars killed Serbs civilian's(unarmed,without
    > > m> international protection).Destroyed orthodox
    > churches,Serb's houses...
    > > m> We called all (fools) humanitarian on Rhizome
    > to keep Joy(or whatever
    > his/her name is with his stupid and idiotic painting
    > with his pathetic
    > glory) and pay they precious attention to next:
    > > m> America produced terrorism!
    > > m> Responsibility for all victims is Americans!
    > > m> It's time to see killer ayes.
    > > m> Killer is U.S.A!
    > >
    > > m> MADRID=KOSOVO
  • neil jenkins | Wed Mar 17th 2004 8:11 p.m.
    hey manik - didn't international terrorism produce terrorism ?
    (directly from government - i'm not referring to any 'recognised'
    'terrorist' organisations) i don't see how you can scapegoat joy's work
    in this context, it's already been re-represented (pepsi) or
    re-interpreted by quite a few people who were purely outraged by the
    censorship of a painting which drew inspiration from an original image

    i didnt see any replies to your email about the virtual memorial - and
    since the last bomb attack (in Mitrovica, Baghdad or Madrid depending
    on the news feed) your words have rung louder in my ears.. each hideous
    advance of war has prompted more and more of us to make work around the
    continued assault by western powers, fundamentalist religions and the
    filtered versions of the 'news', but how or where or do we publish it ?
    (by it's nature the work we have all been making here is tainted, and
    lets face it, we're all lucky enough to have modems and working
    telecoms)

    i've turned off my 'home' page and made protest work, through 9/11, the
    continued arrest of Daw Aung San Suu Kyi, Colin Powells speech for war
    at the UN etc etc - but how much does this do ? these are all very
    temporary in time/politic/history context but the continued 'memorial'
    idea is becoming a real problem to me; bombs stop for no-one and the
    victims are continually forgotten, second by second, minute by minute..
    no insult to Agricole for his work, but the need to continually add to
    the memorial is becoming interminable

    still no news on the bbc here about the Mitrovica

    with much respect
    neil

    On Wednesday, March 17, 2004, at 08:51 PM, manik wrote:

    > To all Rhizomers:
    > Tonight
  • manik vauda marija manik nikola pilipovic | Wed Mar 17th 2004 8:14 p.m.
    Wash your brain instead as.We thought that we are finished with your touchy
    rhetoric.But,no!
    Solve your problems with chauvinism&racism,obviously that's something deep
    in your mind,not in our vocabulary(see we are generous,here,and only here
    you hawed mind).
    Don't torture your self,after all you not so bad gay,vain little.
    That's all for you.
    MANIK
    Next?
    PS:Read MANIK's texts again.That's MANIK's argument and statement.
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Michael Szpakowski" <szpako@yahoo.com>
    To: <list@rhizome.org>
    Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 12:42 AM
    Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: TO IDIOTS

    > <..And
    > your stupid "SPAM" is deadly boring...Watch news,you
    > insignificant piece of shit!>
    > Gosh - those guys certainly can construct a cogent and
    > devasting argument!
    > I don't have any beef with the assertion that Serbs
    > have been victims in Kossovo and other areas of former
    > Yugoslavia -it's clearly true, certainly so since
    > US/UK intervention, although asking us to believe that
    > there was no organized, regime led persecution of the
    > Kossovan Albanians under the old regime is pushing it
    > just a little.
    > What I object to (and manik would like us to believe
    > that this is a necessary consequence of the above,
    > which it isn't) is their nasty and petty national
    > chauvinism and anti Albanian racism.
    > I don't think racism ,of whatever form, should have
    > any place on this list. How long would it be tolerated
    > if African Americans or Bengalis or Jews were spoken
    > of in the terms manik used in their original post?(
    > which I see they have helpfully appended to their
    > reply to Joseph - take a look. )
    > I hope not long.
    > michael
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > MANIK
    > > ----- Original Message -----
    > > From: "trashconnection" <www@trashconnection.com>
    > > To: "manik" <manik@ptt.yu>; <list@rhizome.org>
    > > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 10:44 PM
    > > Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: TO IDIOTS
    > >
    > >
    > > > Americans and bikers are guilty of murder.
    > > >
    > > > m> To all Rhizomers:
    > > > m> Tonight Shiptar's(Kosovo Albanians) terrorist
    > > killed Serbs in Kosovo.As
    > > their Master's Americans(1999 from air) they do that
    > > like beast:thousand of
    > > Shiptars killed Serbs civilian's(unarmed,without
    > > > m> international protection).Destroyed orthodox
    > > churches,Serb's houses...
    > > > m> We called all (fools) humanitarian on Rhizome
    > > to keep Joy(or whatever
    > > his/her name is with his stupid and idiotic painting
    > > with his pathetic
    > > glory) and pay they precious attention to next:
    > > > m> America produced terrorism!
    > > > m> Responsibility for all victims is Americans!
    > > > m> It's time to see killer ayes.
    > > > m> Killer is U.S.A!
    > > >
    > > > m> MADRID=KOSOVO
  • manik vauda marija manik nikola pilipovic | Wed Mar 17th 2004 8:28 p.m.
    Hi Neil,
    We don't think that you are idiot.So,thank for your mail and all the best.
    After this mass in Serbia(in Belgrade is hell tonight),we'll be glad to talk
    with you about all issues you mention below.
    MANIK
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "neil jenkins" <neil@devoid.co.uk>
    To: "manik" <manik@ptt.yu>; "rhizome" <list@rhizome.org>
    Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 1:11 AM
    Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: TO IDIOTS

    > hey manik - didn't international terrorism produce terrorism ?
    > (directly from government - i'm not referring to any 'recognised'
    > 'terrorist' organisations) i don't see how you can scapegoat joy's work
    > in this context, it's already been re-represented (pepsi) or
    > re-interpreted by quite a few people who were purely outraged by the
    > censorship of a painting which drew inspiration from an original image
    >
    > i didnt see any replies to your email about the virtual memorial - and
    > since the last bomb attack (in Mitrovica, Baghdad or Madrid depending
    > on the news feed) your words have rung louder in my ears.. each hideous
    > advance of war has prompted more and more of us to make work around the
    > continued assault by western powers, fundamentalist religions and the
    > filtered versions of the 'news', but how or where or do we publish it ?
    > (by it's nature the work we have all been making here is tainted, and
    > lets face it, we're all lucky enough to have modems and working
    > telecoms)
    >
    > i've turned off my 'home' page and made protest work, through 9/11, the
    > continued arrest of Daw Aung San Suu Kyi, Colin Powells speech for war
    > at the UN etc etc - but how much does this do ? these are all very
    > temporary in time/politic/history context but the continued 'memorial'
    > idea is becoming a real problem to me; bombs stop for no-one and the
    > victims are continually forgotten, second by second, minute by minute..
    > no insult to Agricole for his work, but the need to continually add to
    > the memorial is becoming interminable
    >
    > still no news on the bbc here about the Mitrovica
    >
    > with much respect
    > neil
    >
    >
    >
    > On Wednesday, March 17, 2004, at 08:51 PM, manik wrote:
    >
    > > To all Rhizomers:
    > > Tonight Shiptar's(Kosovo Albanians) terrorist killed Serbs in
    > > Kosovo.As their Master's Americans(1999 from air) they do that like
    > > beast:thousand of Shiptars killed Serbs civilian's(unarmed,without
    > > international protection).Destroyed orthodox churches,Serb's houses...
    > > We called all (fools) humanitarian on Rhizome to keep Joy(or whatever
    > > his/her name is with his stupid and idiotic painting with his pathetic
    > > glory) and pay they precious attention to next:
    > > America produced terrorism!
    > > Responsibility for all victims is Americans!
    > > It's time to see killer ayes.
    > > Killer is U.S.A!
    > >
    > > MADRID=KOSOVO
  • joseph mcelroy | Thu Mar 18th 2004 10:22 a.m.
    Suffering to justify madness, animal madness.
    I kick the car that runs over me, breaking my toe.
    Justified that my body is broken.

    It is the mind space, we have run out of room.
    Elbows and fists are flying in the same cramped quarters.
    Silly people, justifying their suffering with more.

    Artists! Create new space!
    It is the responsibility.
    Stop wasting space
    On virtual realities
    And vain glories.

    Redefine capitalism, socialism, liberalism, conservatism, fundamentalism, religion, politics, sports, arts, hearts.

    What does it take to be a successful person?
    King of a tribe?
    Redefine tribalism.
    Your tribe did not hurt my tribe.
    My tribe did not hurt your tribe.

    My tribe just ceased to exist. Long live my tribe.

    joseph

    nikola pilipovic wrote:

    > >You are scared and seek to scare, the resolution of which is pain and
    > destruction... little men with fists beating their chests like chimps,
    > thowing bombs like
    > >monkeys, spitting words like snakes, dying for causes like nags. All
    > are
    > small.... in the USA and Out.
    >
    >
    > >Stop being scared and trying to scare.
    >
    > >joseph
    > Your words are almost intelligent.But,obviously you don't read MANIK's
    > txt.Be kind and read that snakes words below.
    > And(we don't need anything else to tell you Joseph,buy!)we want to add
    > instead U.S.A----U.S.A ADMINISTRATION.That mean not,repeat,not all
    > American
    > people.
    > So,...next?
    > MANIK
    >
    >
    > Date is 2 March 2004;2,16PM-Rhizome_Raw
    >
    > "Every philosopher thinking about dead and how to die."(Platon)
    >
    > Brain,as a scientifically constructed object,could not be anything
    > else
    > except
    > object for education and created mind in general sense:gnosis and
    > praxis.
    > Knowledge,power and I are triple root of mind
    > problematization.But,based on
    > knowledge,as a problem,thinking mean to look,and to speak.Mind is in
    > disjunction between locking and talking.Every time we hawed to find
    > their
    > relation.
    > Gnostic have only one argument against skeptic;skeptic indifference is
    > fools
    > when they chose bread instead rock for food.That argument make the
    > world go
    > around-permanent production from food to weapon...Word ethic is
    > something
    > like ghost- body supporting life and compromise all history of ,so
    > called,
  • manik vauda marija manik nikola pilipovic | Thu Mar 18th 2004 10:57 a.m.
    ALLELUIA BROTHER!
    MANIK
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "joseph mcelroy" <joseph@electrichands.com>
    To: <list@rhizome.org>
    Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 3:22 PM
    Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: Re: Re: Re: TO IDIOTS

    > Suffering to justify madness, animal madness.
    > I kick the car that runs over me, breaking my toe.
    > Justified that my body is broken.
    >
    > It is the mind space, we have run out of room.
    > Elbows and fists are flying in the same cramped quarters.
    > Silly people, justifying their suffering with more.
    >
    > Artists! Create new space!
    > It is the responsibility.
    > Stop wasting space
    > On virtual realities
    > And vain glories.
    >
    > Redefine capitalism, socialism, liberalism, conservatism, fundamentalism,
    religion, politics, sports, arts, hearts.
    >
    > What does it take to be a successful person?
    > King of a tribe?
    > Redefine tribalism.
    > Your tribe did not hurt my tribe.
    > My tribe did not hurt your tribe.
    >
    > My tribe just ceased to exist. Long live my tribe.
    >
    > joseph
    >
    >
    > nikola pilipovic wrote:
    >
    > > >You are scared and seek to scare, the resolution of which is pain and
    > > destruction... little men with fists beating their chests like chimps,
    > > thowing bombs like
    > > >monkeys, spitting words like snakes, dying for causes like nags. All
    > > are
    > > small.... in the USA and Out.
    > >
    > >
    > > >Stop being scared and trying to scare.
    > >
    > > >joseph
    > > Your words are almost intelligent.But,obviously you don't read MANIK's
    > > txt.Be kind and read that snakes words below.
    > > And(we don't need anything else to tell you Joseph,buy!)we want to add
    > > instead U.S.A----U.S.A ADMINISTRATION.That mean not,repeat,not all
    > > American
    > > people.
    > > So,...next?
    > > MANIK
    > >
    > >
    > > Date is 2 March 2004;2,16PM-Rhizome_Raw
    > >
    > > "Every philosopher thinking about dead and how to die."(Platon)
    > >
    > > Brain,as a scientifically constructed object,could not be anything
    > > else
    > > except
    > > object for education and created mind in general sense:gnosis and
    > > praxis.
    > > Knowledge,power and I are triple root of mind
    > > problematization.But,based on
    > > knowledge,as a problem,thinking mean to look,and to speak.Mind is in
    > > disjunction between locking and talking.Every time we hawed to find
    > > their
    > > relation.
    > > Gnostic have only one argument against skeptic;skeptic indifference is
    > > fools
    > > when they chose bread instead rock for food.That argument make the
    > > world go
    > > around-permanent production from food to weapon...Word ethic is
    > > something
    > > like ghost- body supporting life and compromise all history of ,so
    > > called,
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