I guess the "discussions" here have gotten so trashy, abstract, hackerish that Rhizome took the discussions overview off the front page! Now there is a ghastly "PERNOD" logo in its place. It is safe to say that the paying members here have created a new type of art form, and we did it here. Not everyone here wants to consistently have serious art discussions, but we like the medium and audience. Is this rhizome's way of saying they didn't appreciate it? Are they out of touch with the members they 'manage'? Or is this just a natural reaction to fucking awesomely edgy art? At a given place and time, a rebellious art form will be institutionally acceptable, at another it will not.