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new name for Net Art News?

Dear readers,

I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to change the name
of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.

As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is currently
redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in which we are
thinking about all the recent developments in our field and how
Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.

On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has been to broaden
our scope and reach, getting more international in our coverage and
also covering not only internet art but also software art,
performance, sound art, data visualization, technology-enabled social
sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other branches of new
media practice.

While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title Net Art News
no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The first and
simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,' but of course
this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily looking to split
hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.' The title
needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and hopefully also
inviting.

What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art News, you can
look up previous pieces, by month, here:

http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php

With thanks,
Marisa


+ + +
Marisa Olson
Editor & Curator at Large
Rhizome.org

Comments

marc garrett Dec. 4 2005 18:19Reply

Hi Marisa and all,

Perhaps, 'Rhizomatic Art News' - reflecting the nature of what Rhizome's
original intentions & function? Thus decalring the ahem 'brand' in the
title, whilst declaring the context at the same time. If you are now,
more consciously bound to explore creativity that relates to all aspects
of media art ina wider context, this is a start…

Here are a few 'off the cuff' suggestions also:-

Media Arts Transmissions
Rhizomatic Art News
Media Art Broadcast
Media Art Voice
Media Art at Rhizome
Rhizomatic Relations
Rhizomatic Communications
Media Art Relations
Media Art Today
Media Art Creativity
Creative Networking Info
Creative Networking News
Media Art Connections
Media Art Radar
Media creative reference


marc












>Dear readers,
>
>I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to change the name
>of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.
>
>As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is currently
>redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in which we are
>thinking about all the recent developments in our field and how
>Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.
>
>On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has been to broaden
>our scope and reach, getting more international in our coverage and
>also covering not only internet art but also software art,
>performance, sound art, data visualization, technology-enabled social
>sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other branches of new
>media practice.
>
>While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title Net Art News
>no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The first and
>simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,' but of course
>this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily looking to split
>hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.' The title
>needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and hopefully also
>inviting.
>
>What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
>If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art News, you can
>look up previous pieces, by month, here:
>
>http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php
>
>With thanks,
>Marisa
>
>
>+ + +
>Marisa Olson
>Editor & Curator at Large
>Rhizome.org
>
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>-> questions: info@rhizome.org
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>
>
>
>

Marisa Olson Dec. 4 2005 20:55Reply

Marc,

Thanks for your thoughtful response! A number of these are
interesting. Mark Tribe once told me that the title "Net Art News"
wasn't intended to be just news about net art, but more net-based art
news. Obviously the emphasis is on new media art, but I like that we
(meaning not just staff, but us in the general Rhizome community) are
moving towards a broader conception of what that encompasses… It
says a lot about the vitality of our field!

Anyway, I'd love to hear from more of you, regarding thoughts on
titles. Meanwhile, I particularly like these, among Marc's (and I'd
add them to a list that includes Media Art News):

> Rhizomatic Art News
> Media Art Broadcast
> Media Art Today
> Media Art Radar

I actually think that, of all of them, I might be leaning most towards
Media Art Today. It plays nicely, as [what we now call Net Art News]
goes out three times per week, so it almost feels like a daily piece.
But it also acknowledges that the media arts have a long history and
these articles are about things that are happening in this moment…

But that's just how I feel at this moment… What do others think?

thanks, again!
marisa

> >Dear readers,
> >
> >I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to change the name
> >of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.
> >
> >As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is currently
> >redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in which we are
> >thinking about all the recent developments in our field and how
> >Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.
> >
> >On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has been to broaden
> >our scope and reach, getting more international in our coverage and
> >also covering not only internet art but also software art,
> >performance, sound art, data visualization, technology-enabled social
> >sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other branches of new
> >media practice.
> >
> >While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title Net Art News
> >no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The first and
> >simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,' but of course
> >this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily looking to split
> >hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.' The title
> >needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and hopefully also
> >inviting.
> >
> >What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
> >If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art News, you can
> >look up previous pieces, by month, here:
> >
> >http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php
> >
> >With thanks,
> >Marisa
> >
> >
> >+ + +
> >Marisa Olson
> >Editor & Curator at Large
> >Rhizome.org
> >
> >+
> >-> post: list@rhizome.org
> >-> questions: info@rhizome.org
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> >
> >
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> >
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Pall Thayer Dec. 4 2005 21:38Reply

I agree that "Media Art Today" sounds good but we can go a step
further and call it, "Media Art Tomorrow". I think we have to stop
there though, "Media Art Next Week" is just too long.

Or, what say we put ourselves on top of everything and call it "Art
Tomorrow". That actually has a cool ring to it. I've always disliked
the terms "media art" (what art is NOT "media art"?) and "new media
art" (what's so new about media that's been around for decades?).

Pall
On 4.12.2005, at 22:55, Marisa Olson wrote:

> Marc,
>
> Thanks for your thoughtful response! A number of these are
> interesting. Mark Tribe once told me that the title "Net Art News"
> wasn't intended to be just news about net art, but more net-based art
> news. Obviously the emphasis is on new media art, but I like that we
> (meaning not just staff, but us in the general Rhizome community) are
> moving towards a broader conception of what that encompasses… It
> says a lot about the vitality of our field!
>
> Anyway, I'd love to hear from more of you, regarding thoughts on
> titles. Meanwhile, I particularly like these, among Marc's (and I'd
> add them to a list that includes Media Art News):
>
>> Rhizomatic Art News
>> Media Art Broadcast
>> Media Art Today
>> Media Art Radar
>
> I actually think that, of all of them, I might be leaning most towards
> Media Art Today. It plays nicely, as [what we now call Net Art News]
> goes out three times per week, so it almost feels like a daily piece.
> But it also acknowledges that the media arts have a long history and
> these articles are about things that are happening in this moment…
>
> But that's just how I feel at this moment… What do others think?
>
> thanks, again!
> marisa
>
>>> Dear readers,
>>>
>>> I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to change the name
>>> of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.
>>>
>>> As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is currently
>>> redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in which we are
>>> thinking about all the recent developments in our field and how
>>> Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.
>>>
>>> On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has been to broaden
>>> our scope and reach, getting more international in our coverage and
>>> also covering not only internet art but also software art,
>>> performance, sound art, data visualization, technology-enabled
>>> social
>>> sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other branches
>>> of new
>>> media practice.
>>>
>>> While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title Net Art
>>> News
>>> no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The first and
>>> simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,' but of course
>>> this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily looking to split
>>> hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.' The title
>>> needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and hopefully also
>>> inviting.
>>>
>>> What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly
>>> appreciated.
>>> If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art News, you can
>>> look up previous pieces, by month, here:
>>>
>>> http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php
>>>
>>> With thanks,
>>> Marisa
>>>
>>>
>>> + + +
>>> Marisa Olson
>>> Editor & Curator at Large
>>> Rhizome.org
>>>
>>> +
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>>>
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Pall Thayer
p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca
http://www.this.is/pallit

ryan griffis Dec. 4 2005 22:23Reply

I like Pall's suggestion for using "tomorrow"…
but i don't like the avant garde associations of being "ahead" as a
qualifier… ahead of what exactly?
how about something like "Art Connections" (with the "media" or not)
since most of the pieces are really about introducing then linking
people to work or more info about work?
Or running with Marc's "radar" concept: "Art Blips" (again, with or w/o
"media")
?
ryan

On Dec 4, 2005, at 10:38 PM, Pall Thayer wrote:

> I agree that "Media Art Today" sounds good but we can go a step
> further and call it, "Media Art Tomorrow". I think we have to stop
> there though, "Media Art Next Week" is just too long.
>
> Or, what say we put ourselves on top of everything and call it "Art
> Tomorrow". That actually has a cool ring to it. I've always disliked
> the terms "media art" (what art is NOT "media art"?) and "new media
> art" (what's so new about media that's been around for decades?).

abe Dec. 5 2005 01:06Reply

(the) sprout out



—– Original Message —–
From: "Marisa Olson" <marisa@rhizome.org>
To: <list@rhizome.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 3:49 PM
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?


> Dear readers,
>
> I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to change the name
> of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.
>
> As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is currently
> redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in which we are
> thinking about all the recent developments in our field and how
> Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.
>
> On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has been to broaden
> our scope and reach, getting more international in our coverage and
> also covering not only internet art but also software art,
> performance, sound art, data visualization, technology-enabled social
> sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other branches of new
> media practice.
>
> While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title Net Art News
> no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The first and
> simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,' but of course
> this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily looking to split
> hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.' The title
> needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and hopefully also
> inviting.
>
> What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
> If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art News, you can
> look up previous pieces, by month, here:
>
> http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php
>
> With thanks,
> Marisa
>
>
> + + +
> Marisa Olson
> Editor & Curator at Large
> Rhizome.org
>
> +
> -> post: list@rhizome.org
> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
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> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
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> Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
>
>
>

marc garrett Dec. 5 2005 04:51Reply

(the) hamster gazette

m.

> (the) sprout out
>
>
>
> —– Original Message —– From: "Marisa Olson" <marisa@rhizome.org>
> To: <list@rhizome.org>
> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 3:49 PM
> Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
>
>
>> Dear readers,
>>
>> I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to change the name
>> of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.
>>
>> As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is currently
>> redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in which we are
>> thinking about all the recent developments in our field and how
>> Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.
>>
>> On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has been to broaden
>> our scope and reach, getting more international in our coverage and
>> also covering not only internet art but also software art,
>> performance, sound art, data visualization, technology-enabled social
>> sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other branches of new
>> media practice.
>>
>> While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title Net Art News
>> no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The first and
>> simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,' but of course
>> this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily looking to split
>> hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.' The title
>> needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and hopefully also
>> inviting.
>>
>> What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
>> If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art News, you can
>> look up previous pieces, by month, here:
>>
>> http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php
>>
>> With thanks,
>> Marisa
>>
>>
>> + + +
>> Marisa Olson
>> Editor & Curator at Large
>> Rhizome.org
>>
>> +
>> -> post: list@rhizome.org
>> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
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>>
>>
>>
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>

Pall Thayer Dec. 5 2005 06:31Reply

_Art_Tomorrow_
What we're doing today and you'll be doing tomorrow


On 5.12.2005, at 07:04, marc wrote:

> (the) hamster gazette
>
> m.
>
>> (the) sprout out
>>
>>
>>
>> —– Original Message —– From: "Marisa Olson"
>> <marisa@rhizome.org>
>> To: <list@rhizome.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 3:49 PM
>> Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
>>
>>
>>> Dear readers,
>>>
>>> I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to change the name
>>> of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.
>>>
>>> As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is currently
>>> redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in which we are
>>> thinking about all the recent developments in our field and how
>>> Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.
>>>
>>> On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has been to broaden
>>> our scope and reach, getting more international in our coverage and
>>> also covering not only internet art but also software art,
>>> performance, sound art, data visualization, technology-enabled
>>> social
>>> sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other branches
>>> of new
>>> media practice.
>>>
>>> While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title Net Art
>>> News
>>> no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The first and
>>> simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,' but of course
>>> this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily looking to split
>>> hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.' The title
>>> needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and hopefully also
>>> inviting.
>>>
>>> What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly
>>> appreciated.
>>> If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art News, you can
>>> look up previous pieces, by month, here:
>>>
>>> http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php
>>>
>>> With thanks,
>>> Marisa
>>>
>>>
>>> + + +
>>> Marisa Olson
>>> Editor & Curator at Large
>>> Rhizome.org
>>>
>>> +
>>> -> post: list@rhizome.org
>>> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
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>>> subscribe.rhiz
>>> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
>>> +
>>> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
>>> Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/
>>> 29.php
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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http://www.this.is/pallit

annie abrahams Dec. 5 2005 07:18Reply

As Ryan I don't like the avantgarde connotation of Tomorrow

Among others I like

Art_Radar

annie


On 12/5/05, Pall Thayer <p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca> wrote:
>
> _Art_Tomorrow_
> What we're doing today and you'll be doing tomorrow
>
>
> On 5.12.2005, at 07:04, marc wrote:
>
> > (the) hamster gazette
> >
> > m.
> >
> >> (the) sprout out
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> —– Original Message —– From: "Marisa Olson"
> >> <marisa@rhizome.org>
> >> To: <list@rhizome.org>
> >> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 3:49 PM
> >> Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
> >>
> >>
> >>> Dear readers,
> >>>
> >>> I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to change the name
> >>> of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.
> >>>
> >>> As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is currently
> >>> redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in which we are
> >>> thinking about all the recent developments in our field and how
> >>> Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.
> >>>
> >>> On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has been to broaden
> >>> our scope and reach, getting more international in our coverage and
> >>> also covering not only internet art but also software art,
> >>> performance, sound art, data visualization, technology-enabled
> >>> social
> >>> sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other branches
> >>> of new
> >>> media practice.
> >>>
> >>> While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title Net Art
> >>> News
> >>> no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The first and
> >>> simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,' but of course
> >>> this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily looking to split
> >>> hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.' The title
> >>> needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and hopefully also
> >>> inviting.
> >>>
> >>> What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly
> >>> appreciated.
> >>> If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art News, you can
> >>> look up previous pieces, by month, here:
> >>>
> >>> http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php
> >>>
> >>> With thanks,
> >>> Marisa
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> + + +
> >>> Marisa Olson
> >>> Editor & Curator at Large
> >>> Rhizome.org
> >>>
>

marc garrett Dec. 5 2005 07:35Reply

I agree,

'Tomorrow' smells.

marc


> As Ryan I don't like the avantgarde connotation of Tomorrow
>
> Among others I like
>
> Art_Radar
>
> annie
>
>
> On 12/5/05, *Pall Thayer* <p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca
> <mailto:p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca>> wrote:
>
> _Art_Tomorrow_
> What we're doing today and you'll be doing tomorrow
>
>
> On 5.12.2005, at 07:04, marc wrote:
>
> > (the) hamster gazette
> >
> > m.
> >
> >> (the) sprout out
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> —– Original Message —– From: "Marisa Olson"
> >> <marisa@rhizome.org <mailto:marisa@rhizome.org>>
> >> To: < list@rhizome.org <mailto:list@rhizome.org>>
> >> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 3:49 PM
> >> Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
> >>
> >>
> >>> Dear readers,
> >>>
> >>> I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to change
> the name
> >>> of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.
> >>>
> >>> As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is currently
> >>> redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in which we are
> >>> thinking about all the recent developments in our field and how
> >>> Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.
> >>>
> >>> On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has been to
> broaden
> >>> our scope and reach, getting more international in our
> coverage and
> >>> also covering not only internet art but also software art,
> >>> performance, sound art, data visualization, technology-enabled
> >>> social
> >>> sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other branches
> >>> of new
> >>> media practice.
> >>>
> >>> While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title Net Art
> >>> News
> >>> no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The first and
> >>> simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,' but of
> course
> >>> this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily looking to
> split
> >>> hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.' The title
> >>> needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and hopefully also
> >>> inviting.
> >>>
> >>> What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly
> >>> appreciated.
> >>> If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art News, you can
> >>> look up previous pieces, by month, here:
> >>>
> >>> http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php
> >>>
> >>> With thanks,
> >>> Marisa
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> + + +
> >>> Marisa Olson
> >>> Editor & Curator at Large
> >>> Rhizome.org <http://Rhizome.org>
> >>>
>
>

Pall Thayer Dec. 5 2005 07:55Reply

It doesn't smell any more than "new media". Maybe I'll just use it as
a nom de plume, "new work by Art Tomorrow".

Best r.
Art

On 5.12.2005, at 09:48, marc wrote:

> I agree,
>
> 'Tomorrow' smells.
>
> marc
>
>
>> As Ryan I don't like the avantgarde connotation of Tomorrow
>>
>> Among others I like
>>
>> Art_Radar
>>
>> annie
>>
>>
>> On 12/5/05, *Pall Thayer* <p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca
>> <mailto:p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca>> wrote:
>>
>> _Art_Tomorrow_
>> What we're doing today and you'll be doing tomorrow
>>
>>
>> On 5.12.2005, at 07:04, marc wrote:
>>
>> > (the) hamster gazette
>> >
>> > m.
>> >
>> >> (the) sprout out
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> —– Original Message —– From: "Marisa Olson"
>> >> <marisa@rhizome.org <mailto:marisa@rhizome.org>>
>> >> To: < list@rhizome.org <mailto:list@rhizome.org>>
>> >> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 3:49 PM
>> >> Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Dear readers,
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to change
>> the name
>> >>> of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.
>> >>>
>> >>> As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is
>> currently
>> >>> redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in which
>> we are
>> >>> thinking about all the recent developments in our field
>> and how
>> >>> Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.
>> >>>
>> >>> On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has been to
>> broaden
>> >>> our scope and reach, getting more international in our
>> coverage and
>> >>> also covering not only internet art but also software art,
>> >>> performance, sound art, data visualization, technology-
>> enabled
>> >>> social
>> >>> sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other
>> branches
>> >>> of new
>> >>> media practice.
>> >>>
>> >>> While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title
>> Net Art
>> >>> News
>> >>> no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The
>> first and
>> >>> simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,' but of
>> course
>> >>> this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily looking to
>> split
>> >>> hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.'
>> The title
>> >>> needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and hopefully
>> also
>> >>> inviting.
>> >>>
>> >>> What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly
>> >>> appreciated.
>> >>> If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art News,
>> you can
>> >>> look up previous pieces, by month, here:
>> >>>
>> >>> http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php
>> >>>
>> >>> With thanks,
>> >>> Marisa
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> + + +
>> >>> Marisa Olson
>> >>> Editor & Curator at Large
>> >>> Rhizome.org <http://Rhizome.org>
>> >>>
>>
>>
>
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Dirk Vekemans Dec. 5 2005 08:19Reply

don't like all the tomorrow things either, might as well call it new news or
make news and before you know it you end up with nix news or nomo news

hmm, i don't like the (military) bliep in radars, either.

sth with 'hive' perhaps. Kinda like the idea of getting New Honey from the
artHive sticking in the mailbox.

Or sth with 'swarm'. Hitswarm(still).

Snapit. Synergetic News on Art Production, Information and Technology.

WWWart: Double U, double me, double everybody.

personally i'd call it "stack overflow", but that's way too nAarty…

goodluck,
dv


________________________________

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Verzonden: maandag 5 december 2005 15:18
Aan: list@rhizome.org
Onderwerp: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?


As Ryan I don't like the avantgarde connotation of Tomorrow

Among others I like

Art_Radar

annie



On 12/5/05, Pall Thayer <p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca> wrote:

_Art_Tomorrow_
What we're doing today and you'll be doing tomorrow


On 5.12.2005, at 07:04, marc wrote:

> (the) hamster gazette
>
> m.
>
>> (the) sprout out
>>
>>
>>
>> —– Original Message —– From: "Marisa Olson"
>> <marisa@rhizome.org>
>> To: < list@rhizome.org <mailto:list@rhizome.org> >
>> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 3:49 PM
>> Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
>>
>>
>>> Dear readers,
>>>
>>> I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to
change the name
>>> of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.
>>>
>>> As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is
currently
>>> redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in
which we are
>>> thinking about all the recent developments in our field
and how
>>> Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.
>>>
>>> On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has
been to broaden
>>> our scope and reach, getting more international in our
coverage and
>>> also covering not only internet art but also software
art,
>>> performance, sound art, data visualization,
technology-enabled
>>> social
>>> sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other
branches
>>> of new
>>> media practice.
>>>
>>> While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title
Net Art
>>> News
>>> no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The
first and
>>> simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,'
but of course
>>> this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily
looking to split
>>> hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.'
The title
>>> needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and
hopefully also
>>> inviting.
>>>
>>> What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly

>>> appreciated.
>>> If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art
News, you can
>>> look up previous pieces, by month, here:
>>>
>>> http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php
>>>
>>> With thanks,
>>> Marisa
>>>
>>>
>>> + + +
>>> Marisa Olson
>>> Editor & Curator at Large
>>> Rhizome.org
>>>

marc garrett Dec. 5 2005 08:19Reply

Hi Pall,

I suppose one can assume 'smells' to be a rather subjective affair, as
well as biological sensation. Although I am just about recovering from
flu, and my nose cannot smell much at the moment.

Personally, I do feel that 'Art Tomorrow', smacks of modernist &
post-merdonist intentions (dare I say), or like a business marketing
ploy, or like some mid-90's cyber-Kroker thang.

I totally agree with your perception regarding the term "new media", it
is pretty worn out these days, especially with how things are generally
and swiftly shifting, moving along.

It's going to be interesting watching some of the (more desperate)
historians trying to claim honourship on the term "new media art", now.
The territorial scuttling has already begun I believe, I can hear the
keyboards tapping away….

"I created the term first"
tap::::
"Yes I did- I said it first"
tap::::
"No it wasn't you, It was me - I said it first"
tap::::………………………'''''''…….
"Honest, I said it first"……….

*and history becomes yet another marketing strategy with the aim to
promote the more dominant canons of the day, leaving the wider context
of creativity to rot away forever in the vaults of 'they were not good
enough to seen…………………*

ooops, sorry for being a bit cynical at the end there.

marc

marc


> It doesn't smell any more than "new media". Maybe I'll just use it as
> a nom de plume, "new work by Art Tomorrow".
>
> Best r.
> Art
>
> On 5.12.2005, at 09:48, marc wrote:
>
>> I agree,
>>
>> 'Tomorrow' smells.
>>
>> marc
>>
>>
>>> As Ryan I don't like the avantgarde connotation of Tomorrow
>>>
>>> Among others I like
>>>
>>> Art_Radar
>>>
>>> annie
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/5/05, *Pall Thayer* <p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca
>>> <mailto:p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca>> wrote:
>>>
>>> _Art_Tomorrow_
>>> What we're doing today and you'll be doing tomorrow
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5.12.2005, at 07:04, marc wrote:
>>>
>>> > (the) hamster gazette
>>> >
>>> > m.
>>> >
>>> >> (the) sprout out
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> —– Original Message —– From: "Marisa Olson"
>>> >> <marisa@rhizome.org <mailto:marisa@rhizome.org>>
>>> >> To: < list@rhizome.org <mailto:list@rhizome.org>>
>>> >> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 3:49 PM
>>> >> Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> Dear readers,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to change
>>> the name
>>> >>> of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is currently
>>> >>> redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in which we are
>>> >>> thinking about all the recent developments in our field and how
>>> >>> Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has been to
>>> broaden
>>> >>> our scope and reach, getting more international in our
>>> coverage and
>>> >>> also covering not only internet art but also software art,
>>> >>> performance, sound art, data visualization, technology- enabled
>>> >>> social
>>> >>> sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other branches
>>> >>> of new
>>> >>> media practice.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title Net Art
>>> >>> News
>>> >>> no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The first and
>>> >>> simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,' but of
>>> course
>>> >>> this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily looking to
>>> split
>>> >>> hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.' The title
>>> >>> needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and hopefully also
>>> >>> inviting.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly
>>> >>> appreciated.
>>> >>> If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art News, you can
>>> >>> look up previous pieces, by month, here:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php
>>> >>>
>>> >>> With thanks,
>>> >>> Marisa
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> + + +
>>> >>> Marisa Olson
>>> >>> Editor & Curator at Large
>>> >>> Rhizome.org <http://Rhizome.org>
>>> >>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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>
>
> –
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> p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca
> http://www.this.is/pallit
>
>
>
>
>

carlos katastrofsky Dec. 5 2005 08:26Reply

tomorrows new media exorcists


On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 15:55:05 +0100, Pall Thayer
<p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca> wrote:

> It doesn't smell any more than "new media". Maybe I'll just use it as a
> nom de plume, "new work by Art Tomorrow".
>
> Best r.
> Art
>
> On 5.12.2005, at 09:48, marc wrote:
>
>> I agree,
>>
>> 'Tomorrow' smells.
>>
>> marc
>>
>>
>>> As Ryan I don't like the avantgarde connotation of Tomorrow
>>>
>>> Among others I like
>>>
>>> Art_Radar
>>>
>>> annie
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/5/05, *Pall Thayer* <p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca
>>> <mailto:p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca>> wrote:
>>>
>>> _Art_Tomorrow_
>>> What we're doing today and you'll be doing tomorrow
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5.12.2005, at 07:04, marc wrote:
>>>
>>> > (the) hamster gazette
>>> >
>>> > m.
>>> >
>>> >> (the) sprout out
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> —– Original Message —– From: "Marisa Olson"
>>> >> <marisa@rhizome.org <mailto:marisa@rhizome.org>>
>>> >> To: < list@rhizome.org <mailto:list@rhizome.org>>
>>> >> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 3:49 PM
>>> >> Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> Dear readers,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to change
>>> the name
>>> >>> of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is
>>> currently
>>> >>> redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in which we
>>> are
>>> >>> thinking about all the recent developments in our field and how
>>> >>> Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has been to
>>> broaden
>>> >>> our scope and reach, getting more international in our
>>> coverage and
>>> >>> also covering not only internet art but also software art,
>>> >>> performance, sound art, data visualization, technology-enabled
>>> >>> social
>>> >>> sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other branches
>>> >>> of new
>>> >>> media practice.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title Net
>>> Art
>>> >>> News
>>> >>> no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The first
>>> and
>>> >>> simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,' but of
>>> course
>>> >>> this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily looking to
>>> split
>>> >>> hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.' The
>>> title
>>> >>> needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and hopefully also
>>> >>> inviting.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly
>>> >>> appreciated.
>>> >>> If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art News, you
>>> can
>>> >>> look up previous pieces, by month, here:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php
>>> >>>
>>> >>> With thanks,
>>> >>> Marisa
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> + + +
>>> >>> Marisa Olson
>>> >>> Editor & Curator at Large
>>> >>> Rhizome.org <http://Rhizome.org>
>>> >>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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>
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Sofia Oliveira Dec. 5 2005 08:30Reply

the probe
—– Original Message —–
From: "Dirk Vekemans" <dv@vilt.net>
To: <list@rhizome.org>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 3:18 PM
Subject: RE: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?


> don't like all the tomorrow things either, might as well call it new news
or
> make news and before you know it you end up with nix news or nomo news
>
> hmm, i don't like the (military) bliep in radars, either.
>
> sth with 'hive' perhaps. Kinda like the idea of getting New Honey from the
> artHive sticking in the mailbox.
>
> Or sth with 'swarm'. Hitswarm(still).
>
> Snapit. Synergetic News on Art Production, Information and Technology.
>
> WWWart: Double U, double me, double everybody.
>
> personally i'd call it "stack overflow", but that's way too nAarty…
>
> goodluck,
> dv
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> Van: owner-list@rhizome.org [mailto:owner-list@rhizome.org] Namens
> aabrahams
> Verzonden: maandag 5 december 2005 15:18
> Aan: list@rhizome.org
> Onderwerp: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
>
>
> As Ryan I don't like the avantgarde connotation of Tomorrow
>
> Among others I like
>
> Art_Radar
>
> annie
>
>
>
> On 12/5/05, Pall Thayer <p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca> wrote:
>
> _Art_Tomorrow_
> What we're doing today and you'll be doing tomorrow
>
>
> On 5.12.2005, at 07:04, marc wrote:
>
> > (the) hamster gazette
> >
> > m.
> >
> >> (the) sprout out
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> —– Original Message —– From: "Marisa Olson"
> >> <marisa@rhizome.org>
> >> To: < list@rhizome.org <mailto:list@rhizome.org> >
> >> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 3:49 PM
> >> Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
> >>
> >>
> >>> Dear readers,
> >>>
> >>> I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to
> change the name
> >>> of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.
> >>>
> >>> As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is
> currently
> >>> redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in
> which we are
> >>> thinking about all the recent developments in our field
> and how
> >>> Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.
> >>>
> >>> On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has
> been to broaden
> >>> our scope and reach, getting more international in our
> coverage and
> >>> also covering not only internet art but also software
> art,
> >>> performance, sound art, data visualization,
> technology-enabled
> >>> social
> >>> sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other
> branches
> >>> of new
> >>> media practice.
> >>>
> >>> While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title
> Net Art
> >>> News
> >>> no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The
> first and
> >>> simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,'
> but of course
> >>> this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily
> looking to split
> >>> hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.'
> The title
> >>> needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and
> hopefully also
> >>> inviting.
> >>>
> >>> What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly
>
> >>> appreciated.
> >>> If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art
> News, you can
> >>> look up previous pieces, by month, here:
> >>>
> >>> http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php
> >>>
> >>> With thanks,
> >>> Marisa
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> + + +
> >>> Marisa Olson
> >>> Editor & Curator at Large
> >>> Rhizome.org
> >>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> +
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abe Dec. 5 2005 08:54Reply

richard gere's greenhouse

or

pop3


> (the) hamster gazette
>
> m.
>
>> (the) sprout out
>>
>>
>>
>> —– Original Message —– From: "Marisa Olson" <marisa@rhizome.org>
>> To: <list@rhizome.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 3:49 PM
>> Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
>>
>>
>>> Dear readers,
>>>
>>> I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to change the name
>>> of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.
>>>
>>> As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is currently
>>> redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in which we are
>>> thinking about all the recent developments in our field and how
>>> Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.
>>>
>>> On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has been to broaden
>>> our scope and reach, getting more international in our coverage and
>>> also covering not only internet art but also software art,
>>> performance, sound art, data visualization, technology-enabled social
>>> sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other branches of new
>>> media practice.
>>>
>>> While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title Net Art News
>>> no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The first and
>>> simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,' but of course
>>> this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily looking to split
>>> hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.' The title
>>> needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and hopefully also
>>> inviting.
>>>
>>> What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
>>> If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art News, you can
>>> look up previous pieces, by month, here:
>>>
>>> http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php
>>>
>>> With thanks,
>>> Marisa
>>>
>>>
>>> + + +
>>> Marisa Olson
>>> Editor & Curator at Large
>>> Rhizome.org
>>>
>>> +
>>> -> post: list@rhizome.org
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>>> +
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>>>
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marc garrett Dec. 5 2005 09:17Reply

tomorrow's world
http://www.simonsingh.com/Tomorrows_World_Article.html

or

mediated nutrition
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids!287765&dopt=Citation


m.


> richard gere's greenhouse
>
> or
>
> pop3
>
>
>> (the) hamster gazette
>>
>> m.
>>
>>> (the) sprout out
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> —– Original Message —– From: "Marisa Olson" <marisa@rhizome.org>
>>> To: <list@rhizome.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 3:49 PM
>>> Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Dear readers,
>>>>
>>>> I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to change the name
>>>> of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.
>>>>
>>>> As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is currently
>>>> redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in which we are
>>>> thinking about all the recent developments in our field and how
>>>> Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.
>>>>
>>>> On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has been to broaden
>>>> our scope and reach, getting more international in our coverage and
>>>> also covering not only internet art but also software art,
>>>> performance, sound art, data visualization, technology-enabled social
>>>> sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other branches of new
>>>> media practice.
>>>>
>>>> While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title Net Art News
>>>> no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The first and
>>>> simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,' but of course
>>>> this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily looking to split
>>>> hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.' The title
>>>> needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and hopefully also
>>>> inviting.
>>>>
>>>> What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
>>>> If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art News, you can
>>>> look up previous pieces, by month, here:
>>>>
>>>> http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php
>>>>
>>>> With thanks,
>>>> Marisa
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> + + +
>>>> Marisa Olson
>>>> Editor & Curator at Large
>>>> Rhizome.org
>>>>
>>>> +
>>>> -> post: list@rhizome.org
>>>> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
>>>> -> subscribe/unsubscribe:
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>>>> +
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>>>> Membership Agreement available online at
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>>>>
>>>
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joy garnett Dec. 5 2005 09:19Reply

maybe call it… "Download" ??



?



>> —– Original Message —– From: "Marisa Olson" <marisa@rhizome.org>
> >> To: <list@rhizome.org>
> >> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 3:49 PM
> >> Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
> >>
> >>
> >>> Dear readers,
> >>>
> >>> I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to change the name
> >>> of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.
> >>>
> >>> As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is currently
> >>> redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in which we are
> >>> thinking about all the recent developments in our field and how
> >>> Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.
> >>>
> >>> On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has been to broaden
> >>> our scope and reach, getting more international in our coverage and
> >>> also covering not only internet art but also software art,
> >>> performance, sound art, data visualization, technology-enabled social
> >>> sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other branches of new
> >>> media practice.
> >>>
> >>> While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title Net Art News
> >>> no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The first and
> >>> simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,' but of course
> >>> this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily looking to split
> >>> hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.' The title
> >>> needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and hopefully also
> >>> inviting.
> >>>
> >>> What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
> >>> If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art News, you can
> >>> look up previous pieces, by month, here:
> >>>
> >>> http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php
> >>>
> >>> With thanks,
> >>> Marisa
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Jack Stenner Dec. 5 2005 09:22Reply

Rhizomedia

On Dec 4, 2005, at 4:49 PM, Marisa Olson wrote:

> Dear readers,
>
> I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to change the name
> of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.
>
> As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is currently
> redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in which we are
> thinking about all the recent developments in our field and how
> Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.
>
> On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has been to broaden
> our scope and reach, getting more international in our coverage and
> also covering not only internet art but also software art,
> performance, sound art, data visualization, technology-enabled social
> sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other branches of new
> media practice.
>
> While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title Net Art News
> no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The first and
> simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,' but of course
> this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily looking to split
> hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.' The title
> needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and hopefully also
> inviting.
>
> What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
> If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art News, you can
> look up previous pieces, by month, here:
>
> http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php
>
> With thanks,
> Marisa
>
>
> + + +
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ryan griffis Dec. 5 2005 09:39Reply

i think the ones below are getting somewhere interesting…

sprout out (abe)

pop3 (abe)

artHive (Dirk)

Rhizomedia (from Jack Stenner)

i think i'm kinda into "Rhizomedia"
ryan


On Dec 5, 2005, at 9:53 AM, abe linkoln wrote:

>
> pop3
>
>
>> (the) hamster gazette
>> m.
>>> (the) sprout out

Marisa Olson Dec. 5 2005 13:30Reply

Thanks for your thoughts, Myriam. I'm cc'ing the list, as one can't
post directly to rare@rhizome.org…

Marisa

On 12/5/05, Myriam Thyes <myriam@thyes.com> wrote:
> Dear Marisa, dear colleagues,
>
> why not re-interprete the word NET? I like the word Net Art,
> though I

Marisa Olson Dec. 5 2005 14:20Reply

thanks!! cc'ing the list…

On 12/5/05, Simon Biggs <simon@littlepig.org.uk> wrote:
> Change one letter
>
> New Art News
>
> Best
>
> Simon
>
>
> On 05.12.05 18:24, "Marisa Olson" <marisa@rhizome.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > To view this entire thread, click here:
> > http://rhizome.org/thread.rhiz?thread560&text7163#37163
> >
> > + + +
> >
> > Dear readers,
> >
> > I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to change the name
> > of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.
> >
> > As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is currently
> > redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in which we are
> > thinking about all the recent developments in our field and how
> > Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.
> >
> > On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has been to broaden
> > our scope and reach, getting more international in our coverage and
> > also covering not only internet art but also software art,
> > performance, sound art, data visualization, technology-enabled social
> > sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other branches of new
> > media practice.
> >
> > While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title Net Art News
> > no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The first and
> > simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,' but of course
> > this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily looking to split
> > hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.' The title
> > needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and hopefully also
> > inviting.
> >
> > What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
> > If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art News, you can
> > look up previous pieces, by month, here:
> >
> > http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php
> >
> > With thanks,
> > Marisa
> >
> >
> > + + +
> > Marisa Olson
> > Editor & Curator at Large
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M. River Dec. 5 2005 16:37Reply

> On 12/5/05, Simon Biggs <simon@littlepig.org.uk> wrote:
> > Change one letter
> >
> > New Art News
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Simon


like it.

NAN

has good graphic look.

/\

ld Dec. 5 2005 16:46Reply

It would be good if it were renamed using a similar approach to however the name 'Rhizome' was decided on, a name that describes the structures and functions of what is being named instead of labelling them.

The way some of these suggestions are going, Rhizome would have been named 'Media Art Website'. Although the scope of Net Art News is now large, it shouldn't have to tame itself. I think after all, we're artists, and we should be able to handle a name that's a bit unobvious.

Luke


Marisa Olson wrote:

> Dear readers,
>
> I'm writing to solicit your advice. We would like to change the name
> of Net Art News and I'd like your input on a new name.
>
> As Lauren mentioned in a recent note to you, Rhizome is currently
> redesigning our site. This is an exciting moment in which we are
> thinking about all the recent developments in our field and how
> Rhizome can reflect, support, and foster them.
>
> On the editorial side, my goal with Net Art News has been to broaden
> our scope and reach, getting more international in our coverage and
> also covering not only internet art but also software art,
> performance, sound art, data visualization, technology-enabled social
> sculpture, locative media, video, and the myriad other branches of new
> media practice.
>
> While we are by no means giving up on net art, the title Net Art News
> no longer reflects the breadth of the publication. The first and
> simplest title that comes to mind is 'Media Art News,' but of course
> this is potentially dry. I'm also not necessarily looking to split
> hairs over the phrases 'media art' and 'new media art.' The title
> needs to be rather short, self-descriptive, and hopefully also
> inviting.
>
> What are your suggestions? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
> If you'd like to refamiliarize yourself with Net Art News, you can
> look up previous pieces, by month, here:
>
> http://rhizome.org/netartnews/index.php
>
> With thanks,
> Marisa
>
>
> + + +
> Marisa Olson
> Editor & Curator at Large
> Rhizome.org
>

Marisa Olson Dec. 5 2005 16:48Reply

The hits keep on coming!

James Huckenpahler wrote:

> 3 possible titles, maybe too goofy or opaque…
>
> MEDIA EATS ITSELF
>
> PING
>
> RECURSOR

And Robbin Murphy, of The Thing sent this fun list of ideas
contributed by Thingist subscribers, when they were thinking of
changing the name of bbs.thing.net (I asked Robbin if I could forward
it given it's historical value!):

?ru.thing.net
[x].thing.net
404.thing.net
a.thing.net
a6v92oq.thing.net
abstract.thing.net
ambient.thing.net
ante.thing.net
any.thing.net
are_those_your_real_teeth.thing.net
ars.thing.net
art.thing.net
atomic.thing.net
authorized_version.thing.net
big.thing.net
biplane.thing.net
blog.thing.net
boring.thing.net
boring_again.thing.net
bourgeois.thing.net
broken.thing.net
btw.thing.net
byebye.thing.net
byte-sized.thing.net
called.thing.net
canadada.thing.net
canned.thing.net
caviar.thing.net
click.thing.net
community.thing.net
concrete.thing.net
confusing.thing.net
construct.thing.net
consumable.thing.net
content.thing.net
cool.thing.net
cosmic.thing.net
crazy.thing.net
creative.thing.net
dangly.thing.net
darwin.thing.net
das.thing.net
der-sagin-enkulate-the-foret.thing.net
door.thing.net
electric.thing.net
enter.thing.net
entitled.thing.net
every.thing.net
everylittle.thing.net
fading.thing.net
famous_people_have_better_things_to_do.thing.net
fatso.thing.net
feathered.thing.net
first.thing.net
foolish.thing.net
frank_sinatra.thing.net
free_the_oxford_five.thing.net
fuckedup.thing.net
fuckme.thing.net
fuckyou.thing.net
funky.thing.net
fuzzy.thing.net
gate.thing.net
getalife.thing.net
get-into-the-swing-of.thing.net
glamor.thing.net
global.thing.net
go.thing.net
grand_imperial.thing.net
happy.thing.net
hitme.thing.net
horseless.thing.net
hypomnemata.thing.net
i_havent_the_faintest_idea_what_youre_talking_about.thing.net
i_saw_the_light_at.thing.net
iam.thing.net
iloveyou.thing.net
index.thing.net
industrialstrength.thing.net
interface.thing.net
international.thing.net
iola.thing.net
isocahedral.thing.net
jail_the_oxford_five.thing.net
josh-free.thing.net
just_a_dream.thing.net
just_kidding.thing.net
just-the.thing.net
kinder_gentler.thing.net
know.thing.net
LAFrance.thing.net
live.thing.net
living.thing.net
medicated.thing.net
miss.thing.net
model.thing.net
my.thing.net
my_dog_ate_my_homework.thing.net
napoleon.thing.net
neo.thing.net
net.thing.net
nibbly.thing.net
no.thing.net
not-a.thing.net
ohandonemore.thing.net.
ohthisold.thing.net
open.thing.net
our.thing.net
painless.thing.net
piano.thing.net
pizza.thing.net
platform.thing.net
pointless.thing.net
poor-little.thing.net
port.thing.net
portal.thing.net
proletariat.thing.net
psychotropic.thing.net
public.thing.net
radioactive.thing.net
red.thing.net
res.thing.net
rhomboid.thing.net
rich.thing.net
root.thing.net
round.thing.net
rushing.thing.net
same.thing.net
see.thing.net
serious.thing.net
sexy.thing.net
she_looked_at_me_and_i_looked_right_back.thing.net
silent.thing.net
single.thing.net
smelly.thing.net
so_why_bother.thing.net
some.thing.net
soo.thing.net
source.thing.net
"sponsor".thing.net
square.thing.net
squeeze.my.thing.net
sticky.thing.net
stoned.thing.net
stream.thing.net
sugarfree.thing.net
sure.thing.net
swamp.thing.net
sweet.thing.net
swiss.thing.net
t.thing.net
telnet.thing.net
that.thing.net
thatfucking.thing.net
the.thing.net
the_other.thing.net
themorethingschangethemoretheyremainthesame.thing.net
thenextbig.thing.net
thereal.thing.net
thing.thing.net
things.are.changing.thing.net
thingy.thing.net
titled.thing.net
total.thing.net
toy.thing.net
triangular.thing.net
tuba.thing.net
tumbleweed.thing.net
uboat.thing.net
undergrowth.thing.net
untitled.thing.net
utopia.thing.net
war_toy_free.thing.net
what.thing.net
whathehellisthat.thing.net
what-is-this.thing.net
when_i_hear_the_word_culture_i_reach_for_my_gun_again.thing.net
whyamilisteningtogordonlightfoot.thing.net
wild.thing.net
wolfgangs.thing.net
wornout.thing.net
x.thing.net
your_dog_ate_my_homework.thing.net

marc garrett Dec. 5 2005 19:28Reply

I get where you're coming from, but I have a problem with the term 'new'…

Why must we conform to the trad-marketing rule, that to have something
seen as contemporary that it must have the word 'new' in it all of the time?

I tend to think that using the term 'new' these days, is almost like
saying 'old'.

A kind of retro-step backwards to the over-mediated, historical word
'Modern'- imagine that- then it might as well be instead called of
'nan', 'man' - 'modern art news', and where would we all be then?

I feel, that a subtle trick could be used here. I think that it would be
great to sustain and promote the idea of being 'new' or fresh, but
without actually saying the word 'new'. That would be cool…

marc

> nan - new art news (no caps lock)
> i like it.
> gb
>
> 2005/12/5, M. River <mriver102@yahoo.com <mailto:mriver102@yahoo.com>>:
>
> > On 12/5/05, Simon Biggs <simon@littlepig.org.uk
> <mailto:simon@littlepig.org.uk>> wrote:
> > > Change one letter
> > >
> > > New Art News
> > >
> > > Best
> > >
> > > Simon
>
>
> like it.
>
> NAN
>
> has good graphic look.
>
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Pall Thayer Dec. 5 2005 19:45Reply

Yeah, like… something along the lines of "Art Tomorrow" :-)

best r.
Art

On 5.12.2005, at 21:41, marc wrote:

> I get where you're coming from, but I have a problem with the term
> 'new'…
>
> Why must we conform to the trad-marketing rule, that to have
> something seen as contemporary that it must have the word 'new' in
> it all of the time?
>
> I tend to think that using the term 'new' these days, is almost
> like saying 'old'.
>
> A kind of retro-step backwards to the over-mediated, historical
> word 'Modern'- imagine that- then it might as well be instead
> called of 'nan', 'man' - 'modern art news', and where would we all
> be then?
>
> I feel, that a subtle trick could be used here. I think that it
> would be great to sustain and promote the idea of being 'new' or
> fresh, but without actually saying the word 'new'. That would be
> cool…
>
> marc
>
>> nan - new art news (no caps lock)
>> i like it.
>> gb
>>
>> 2005/12/5, M. River <mriver102@yahoo.com
>> <mailto:mriver102@yahoo.com>>:
>>
>> > On 12/5/05, Simon Biggs <simon@littlepig.org.uk
>> <mailto:simon@littlepig.org.uk>> wrote:
>> > > Change one letter
>> > >
>> > > New Art News
>> > >
>> > > Best
>> > >
>> > > Simon
>>
>>
>> like it.
>>
>> NAN
>>
>> has good graphic look.
>>
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marc garrett Dec. 5 2005 19:48Reply

'Art Tomorrow' is a bit lame…very true :-)

m.


> Yeah, like… something along the lines of "Art Tomorrow" :-)
>
> best r.
> Art
>
> On 5.12.2005, at 21:41, marc wrote:
>
>> I get where you're coming from, but I have a problem with the term
>> 'new'…
>>
>> Why must we conform to the trad-marketing rule, that to have
>> something seen as contemporary that it must have the word 'new' in
>> it all of the time?
>>
>> I tend to think that using the term 'new' these days, is almost like
>> saying 'old'.
>>
>> A kind of retro-step backwards to the over-mediated, historical word
>> 'Modern'- imagine that- then it might as well be instead called of
>> 'nan', 'man' - 'modern art news', and where would we all be then?
>>
>> I feel, that a subtle trick could be used here. I think that it
>> would be great to sustain and promote the idea of being 'new' or
>> fresh, but without actually saying the word 'new'. That would be
>> cool…
>>
>> marc
>>
>>> nan - new art news (no caps lock)
>>> i like it.
>>> gb
>>>
>>> 2005/12/5, M. River <mriver102@yahoo.com
>>> <mailto:mriver102@yahoo.com>>:
>>>
>>> > On 12/5/05, Simon Biggs <simon@littlepig.org.uk
>>> <mailto:simon@littlepig.org.uk>> wrote:
>>> > > Change one letter
>>> > >
>>> > > New Art News
>>> > >
>>> > > Best
>>> > >
>>> > > Simon
>>>
>>>
>>> like it.
>>>
>>> NAN
>>>
>>> has good graphic look.
>>>
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Pall Thayer Dec. 5 2005 20:01Reply

I like it. Sounds like something that would go well with glittery
golden vinyl upholstery and fake leopard skin pillows… and a martini.

From the desk of:
****Art Tomorrow****

On 5.12.2005, at 22:01, marc wrote:

> 'Art Tomorrow' is a bit lame…very true :-)
>
> m.
>
>
>> Yeah, like… something along the lines of "Art Tomorrow" :-)
>>
>> best r.
>> Art
>>
>> On 5.12.2005, at 21:41, marc wrote:
>>
>>> I get where you're coming from, but I have a problem with the
>>> term 'new'…
>>>
>>> Why must we conform to the trad-marketing rule, that to have
>>> something seen as contemporary that it must have the word 'new'
>>> in it all of the time?
>>>
>>> I tend to think that using the term 'new' these days, is almost
>>> like saying 'old'.
>>>
>>> A kind of retro-step backwards to the over-mediated, historical
>>> word 'Modern'- imagine that- then it might as well be instead
>>> called of 'nan', 'man' - 'modern art news', and where would we
>>> all be then?
>>>
>>> I feel, that a subtle trick could be used here. I think that it
>>> would be great to sustain and promote the idea of being 'new' or
>>> fresh, but without actually saying the word 'new'. That would be
>>> cool…
>>>
>>> marc
>>>
>>>> nan - new art news (no caps lock)
>>>> i like it.
>>>> gb
>>>>
>>>> 2005/12/5, M. River <mriver102@yahoo.com
>>>> <mailto:mriver102@yahoo.com>>:
>>>>
>>>> > On 12/5/05, Simon Biggs <simon@littlepig.org.uk
>>>> <mailto:simon@littlepig.org.uk>> wrote:
>>>> > > Change one letter
>>>> > >
>>>> > > New Art News
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Best
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Simon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> like it.
>>>>
>>>> NAN
>>>>
>>>> has good graphic look.
>>>>
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>>>> http://netart.incubadora.fapesp.br/
>>>
>>>
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marc garrett Dec. 5 2005 20:05Reply

so are you saying that's how rhizome wishes to be seen as- glittery
golden vinyl upholstery and fake leopard skin pillows… ?

mmm…
now that you mention it- I wouldn't mind some fake leopard skin pillows
actually, and some fluffy white dice :-)

marc




> I like it. Sounds like something that would go well with glittery
> golden vinyl upholstery and fake leopard skin pillows… and a martini.
>
> From the desk of:
> ****Art Tomorrow****
>
> On 5.12.2005, at 22:01, marc wrote:
>
>> 'Art Tomorrow' is a bit lame…very true :-)
>>
>> m.
>>
>>
>>> Yeah, like… something along the lines of "Art Tomorrow" :-)
>>>
>>> best r.
>>> Art
>>>
>>> On 5.12.2005, at 21:41, marc wrote:
>>>
>>>> I get where you're coming from, but I have a problem with the
>>>> term 'new'…
>>>>
>>>> Why must we conform to the trad-marketing rule, that to have
>>>> something seen as contemporary that it must have the word 'new'
>>>> in it all of the time?
>>>>
>>>> I tend to think that using the term 'new' these days, is almost
>>>> like saying 'old'.
>>>>
>>>> A kind of retro-step backwards to the over-mediated, historical
>>>> word 'Modern'- imagine that- then it might as well be instead
>>>> called of 'nan', 'man' - 'modern art news', and where would we
>>>> all be then?
>>>>
>>>> I feel, that a subtle trick could be used here. I think that it
>>>> would be great to sustain and promote the idea of being 'new' or
>>>> fresh, but without actually saying the word 'new'. That would be
>>>> cool…
>>>>
>>>> marc
>>>>
>>>>> nan - new art news (no caps lock)
>>>>> i like it.
>>>>> gb
>>>>>
>>>>> 2005/12/5, M. River <mriver102@yahoo.com
>>>>> <mailto:mriver102@yahoo.com>>:
>>>>>
>>>>> > On 12/5/05, Simon Biggs <simon@littlepig.org.uk
>>>>> <mailto:simon@littlepig.org.uk>> wrote:
>>>>> > > Change one letter
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > New Art News
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Best
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Simon
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> like it.
>>>>>
>>>>> NAN
>>>>>
>>>>> has good graphic look.
>>>>>
>>>>> /\
>>>>> +
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>>>>> -> questions: info@rhizome.org <mailto:info@rhizome.org>
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>>>>> +
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>>>>> Membership Agreement available online at
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> –
>>>>> www.desvirtual.com <http://www.desvirtual.com>
>>>>> http://netart.incubadora.fapesp.br/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> –
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>>> http://www.this.is/pallit
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>
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Andrei Thomaz Dec. 5 2005 20:29Reply

i really don't like the "futuristic names"… It is just if something
could be better only because it uses high technology. If somebody
works with Atari videogames from 80's, would can this work be
published under the title "new art news" ?

And "net" (and things like that) has a point: it puts the question of
connection and of rhizome above the futuristic and technologic ones
;-)

excuse me for bad english,
andrei


On 12/6/05, marc <marc.garrett@furtherfield.org> wrote:
> so are you saying that's how rhizome wishes to be seen as- glittery
> golden vinyl upholstery and fake leopard skin pillows… ?
>
> mmm…
> now that you mention it- I wouldn't mind some fake leopard skin pillows
> actually, and some fluffy white dice :-)
>
> marc
>
>
>
>
> > I like it. Sounds like something that would go well with glittery
> > golden vinyl upholstery and fake leopard skin pillows… and a martini.
> >
> > From the desk of:
> > ****Art Tomorrow****
> >
> > On 5.12.2005, at 22:01, marc wrote:
> >
> >> 'Art Tomorrow' is a bit lame…very true :-)
> >>
> >> m.
> >>
> >>
> >>> Yeah, like… something along the lines of "Art Tomorrow" :-)
> >>>
> >>> best r.
> >>> Art
> >>>
> >>> On 5.12.2005, at 21:41, marc wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I get where you're coming from, but I have a problem with the
> >>>> term 'new'…
> >>>>
> >>>> Why must we conform to the trad-marketing rule, that to have
> >>>> something seen as contemporary that it must have the word 'new'
> >>>> in it all of the time?
> >>>>
> >>>> I tend to think that using the term 'new' these days, is almost
> >>>> like saying 'old'.
> >>>>
> >>>> A kind of retro-step backwards to the over-mediated, historical
> >>>> word 'Modern'- imagine that- then it might as well be instead
> >>>> called of 'nan', 'man' - 'modern art news', and where would we
> >>>> all be then?
> >>>>
> >>>> I feel, that a subtle trick could be used here. I think that it
> >>>> would be great to sustain and promote the idea of being 'new' or
> >>>> fresh, but without actually saying the word 'new'. That would be
> >>>> cool…
> >>>>
> >>>> marc
> >>>>
> >>>>> nan - new art news (no caps lock)
> >>>>> i like it.
> >>>>> gb
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2005/12/5, M. River <mriver102@yahoo.com
> >>>>> <mailto:mriver102@yahoo.com>>:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> > On 12/5/05, Simon Biggs <simon@littlepig.org.uk
> >>>>> <mailto:simon@littlepig.org.uk>> wrote:
> >>>>> > > Change one letter
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> > > New Art News
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> > > Best
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> > > Simon
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> like it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> NAN
> >>>>>
> >>>>> has good graphic look.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> /\
> >>>>> +
> >>>>> -> post: list@rhizome.org <mailto:list@rhizome.org>
> >>>>> -> questions: info@rhizome.org <mailto:info@rhizome.org>
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> >>>>> +
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> >>>>> Membership Agreement available online at
> >>>>> http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> –
> >>>>> www.desvirtual.com <http://www.desvirtual.com>
> >>>>> http://netart.incubadora.fapesp.br/
> >>>>
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Pall Thayer Dec. 6 2005 20:24Reply

I don't know what you mean. Who _wouldn't_ want to be seen as
glittery golden vinyl upholstery and fake leopard skin pillows? I
also feel that Rhizome should move their headquarters into a bowling
alley and organize monthly fund-raising bowl-a-thons called "Bowling
for Bytes" and once a year use the proceeds to invite all the members
to a weekend bash in Tijuana.

Art Tomorrow

On 5.12.2005, at 22:19, marc wrote:

> so are you saying that's how rhizome wishes to be seen as-
> glittery golden vinyl upholstery and fake leopard skin pillows… ?
>
> mmm…
> now that you mention it- I wouldn't mind some fake leopard skin
> pillows actually, and some fluffy white dice :-)
>
> marc
>
>
>
>
>> I like it. Sounds like something that would go well with glittery
>> golden vinyl upholstery and fake leopard skin pillows… and a
>> martini.
>>
>> From the desk of:
>> ****Art Tomorrow****
>>
>> On 5.12.2005, at 22:01, marc wrote:
>>
>>> 'Art Tomorrow' is a bit lame…very true :-)
>>>
>>> m.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Yeah, like… something along the lines of "Art Tomorrow" :-)
>>>>
>>>> best r.
>>>> Art
>>>>
>>>> On 5.12.2005, at 21:41, marc wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I get where you're coming from, but I have a problem with the
>>>>> term 'new'…
>>>>>
>>>>> Why must we conform to the trad-marketing rule, that to have
>>>>> something seen as contemporary that it must have the word
>>>>> 'new' in it all of the time?
>>>>>
>>>>> I tend to think that using the term 'new' these days, is
>>>>> almost like saying 'old'.
>>>>>
>>>>> A kind of retro-step backwards to the over-mediated,
>>>>> historical word 'Modern'- imagine that- then it might as well
>>>>> be instead called of 'nan', 'man' - 'modern art news', and
>>>>> where would we all be then?
>>>>>
>>>>> I feel, that a subtle trick could be used here. I think that
>>>>> it would be great to sustain and promote the idea of being
>>>>> 'new' or fresh, but without actually saying the word 'new'.
>>>>> That would be cool…
>>>>>
>>>>> marc
>>>>>
>>>>>> nan - new art news (no caps lock)
>>>>>> i like it.
>>>>>> gb
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2005/12/5, M. River <mriver102@yahoo.com
>>>>>> <mailto:mriver102@yahoo.com>>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > On 12/5/05, Simon Biggs <simon@littlepig.org.uk
>>>>>> <mailto:simon@littlepig.org.uk>> wrote:
>>>>>> > > Change one letter
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > New Art News
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Best
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Simon
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> like it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> NAN
>>>>>>
>>>>>> has good graphic look.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /\
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> -> post: list@rhizome.org <mailto:list@rhizome.org>
>>>>>> -> questions: info@rhizome.org <mailto:info@rhizome.org>
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>>>>>> support>
>>>>>> +
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>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Membership Agreement available online at
>>>>>> http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> –
>>>>>> www.desvirtual.com <http://www.desvirtual.com>
>>>>>> http://netart.incubadora.fapesp.br/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> http://www.this.is/pallit
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>>
>>
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ryan griffis Dec. 6 2005 21:24Reply

in that case… the office should be called "the rhizoom-zoom room"
ryan
On Dec 6, 2005, at 9:24 PM, Pall Thayer wrote:

> I don't know what you mean. Who _wouldn't_ want to be seen as glittery
> golden vinyl upholstery and fake leopard skin pillows? I also feel
> that Rhizome should move their headquarters into a bowling alley and
> organize monthly fund-raising bowl-a-thons called "Bowling for Bytes"
> and once a year use the proceeds to invite all the members to a
> weekend bash in Tijuana.
>
> Art Tomorrow
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

Pall Thayer Dec. 6 2005 21:31Reply

That rocks

and net art news can be "the rhizoom-zoom room tribune"

On 6.12.2005, at 23:23, Ryan Griffis wrote:

> in that case… the office should be called "the rhizoom-zoom room"
> ryan
> On Dec 6, 2005, at 9:24 PM, Pall Thayer wrote:
>
>> I don't know what you mean. Who _wouldn't_ want to be seen as
>> glittery golden vinyl upholstery and fake leopard skin pillows? I
>> also feel that Rhizome should move their headquarters into a
>> bowling alley and organize monthly fund-raising bowl-a-thons
>> called "Bowling for Bytes" and once a year use the proceeds to
>> invite all the members to a weekend bash in Tijuana.
>>
>> Art Tomorrow
>>>>>>>>
>
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Roman Minaev Dec. 6 2005 23:47Reply

I personally would prefer NO REASON ART NEWS

Jim Andrews Dec. 11 2005 05:05Reply

Fresh Ice

ja?

Jonah Brucker-Cohen Dec. 11 2005 11:37Reply

I think we should rename Net Art News:

"PLEASE DO NOT SPAM ART"

That would definitely get the point across
jbc

annie abrahams Dec. 12 2005 03:15Reply

playing with abe's suggestion :

sprOUTs

ryan griffis Dec. 12 2005 12:24Reply

i think this is my favorite so far.
ryan

On Dec 12, 2005, at 4:15 AM, aabrahams wrote:

> playing with abe's suggestion :
>
> sprOUTs
>
>

Dirk Vekemans Dec. 12 2005 12:54Reply

Yep, anything from Brussels will do :-)
dv

> —–Oorspronkelijk bericht—–
> Van: owner-list@rhizome.org [mailto:owner-list@rhizome.org]
> Namens Ryan Griffis
> Verzonden: maandag 12 december 2005 20:25
> Aan: rhizome
> Onderwerp: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
>
> i think this is my favorite so far.
> ryan
>
> On Dec 12, 2005, at 4:15 AM, aabrahams wrote:
>
> > playing with abe's suggestion :
> >
> > sprOUTs
> >
> >
>
> +
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Pall Thayer Dec. 12 2005 13:07Reply

I thought sprouts came from alpha-alpha

Pall

On 12.12.2005, at 14:54, Dirk Vekemans wrote:

> Yep, anything from Brussels will do :-)
> dv
>
>> —–Oorspronkelijk bericht—–
>> Van: owner-list@rhizome.org [mailto:owner-list@rhizome.org]
>> Namens Ryan Griffis
>> Verzonden: maandag 12 december 2005 20:25
>> Aan: rhizome
>> Onderwerp: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
>>
>> i think this is my favorite so far.
>> ryan
>>
>> On Dec 12, 2005, at 4:15 AM, aabrahams wrote:
>>
>>> playing with abe's suggestion :
>>>
>>> sprOUTs
>>>
>>>
>>
>> +
>> -> post: list@rhizome.org
>> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
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>>
>
>
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Dirk Vekemans Dec. 12 2005 13:16Reply

Nono, you're talking andives, no relation whatsoever…
dv

> —–Oorspronkelijk bericht—–
> Van: Pall Thayer [mailto:p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca]
> Verzonden: maandag 12 december 2005 21:07
> Aan: Dirk Vekemans
> CC: 'Ryan Griffis'; 'rhizome'
> Onderwerp: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
>
> I thought sprouts came from alpha-alpha
>
> Pall
>
> On 12.12.2005, at 14:54, Dirk Vekemans wrote:
>
> > Yep, anything from Brussels will do :-) dv
> >
> >> —–Oorspronkelijk bericht—–
> >> Van: owner-list@rhizome.org [mailto:owner-list@rhizome.org] Namens
> >> Ryan Griffis
> >> Verzonden: maandag 12 december 2005 20:25
> >> Aan: rhizome
> >> Onderwerp: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
> >>
> >> i think this is my favorite so far.
> >> ryan
> >>
> >> On Dec 12, 2005, at 4:15 AM, aabrahams wrote:
> >>
> >>> playing with abe's suggestion :
> >>>
> >>> sprOUTs
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> +
> >> -> post: list@rhizome.org
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> http://www.this.is/pallit
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Pall Thayer Dec. 12 2005 14:05Reply

Oh good. Does that mean I can stop wondering where the hell alpha-
alpha is?

Pall
On 12.12.2005, at 15:16, Dirk Vekemans wrote:

> Nono, you're talking andives, no relation whatsoever…
> dv
>
>> —–Oorspronkelijk bericht—–
>> Van: Pall Thayer [mailto:p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca]
>> Verzonden: maandag 12 december 2005 21:07
>> Aan: Dirk Vekemans
>> CC: 'Ryan Griffis'; 'rhizome'
>> Onderwerp: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
>>
>> I thought sprouts came from alpha-alpha
>>
>> Pall
>>
>> On 12.12.2005, at 14:54, Dirk Vekemans wrote:
>>
>>> Yep, anything from Brussels will do :-) dv
>>>
>>>> —–Oorspronkelijk bericht—–
>>>> Van: owner-list@rhizome.org [mailto:owner-list@rhizome.org] Namens
>>>> Ryan Griffis
>>>> Verzonden: maandag 12 december 2005 20:25
>>>> Aan: rhizome
>>>> Onderwerp: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
>>>>
>>>> i think this is my favorite so far.
>>>> ryan
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 12, 2005, at 4:15 AM, aabrahams wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> playing with abe's suggestion :
>>>>>
>>>>> sprOUTs
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> +
>>>> -> post: list@rhizome.org
>>>> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
>>>> -> subscribe/unsubscribe:
>>>> http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
>>>> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
>>>> +
>>>> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
>>>> Membership Agreement available online at
>>>> http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> +
>>> -> post: list@rhizome.org
>>> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
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>>> subscribe.rhiz
>>> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
>>> +
>>> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
>>> Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/
>>> 29.php
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> –
>> Pall Thayer
>> p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca
>> http://www.this.is/pallit
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>




Pall Thayer
p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca
http://www.this.is/pallit

Dirk Vekemans Dec. 12 2005 15:48Reply

Well i did when i ate them.
dv

> —–Oorspronkelijk bericht—–
> Van: Pall Thayer [mailto:p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca]
> Verzonden: maandag 12 december 2005 22:05
> Aan: dv@vilt.net
> CC: 'Ryan Griffis'; 'rhizome'
> Onderwerp: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
>
> Oh good. Does that mean I can stop wondering where the hell
> alpha- alpha is?
>
> Pall
> On 12.12.2005, at 15:16, Dirk Vekemans wrote:
>
> > Nono, you're talking andives, no relation whatsoever…
> > dv
> >
> >> —–Oorspronkelijk bericht—–
> >> Van: Pall Thayer [mailto:p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca]
> >> Verzonden: maandag 12 december 2005 21:07
> >> Aan: Dirk Vekemans
> >> CC: 'Ryan Griffis'; 'rhizome'
> >> Onderwerp: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
> >>
> >> I thought sprouts came from alpha-alpha
> >>
> >> Pall
> >>
> >> On 12.12.2005, at 14:54, Dirk Vekemans wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yep, anything from Brussels will do :-) dv
> >>>
> >>>> —–Oorspronkelijk bericht—–
> >>>> Van: owner-list@rhizome.org
> [mailto:owner-list@rhizome.org] Namens
> >>>> Ryan Griffis
> >>>> Verzonden: maandag 12 december 2005 20:25
> >>>> Aan: rhizome
> >>>> Onderwerp: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: new name for Net Art News?
> >>>>
> >>>> i think this is my favorite so far.
> >>>> ryan
> >>>>
> >>>> On Dec 12, 2005, at 4:15 AM, aabrahams wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> playing with abe's suggestion :
> >>>>>
> >>>>> sprOUTs
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> +
> >>>> -> post: list@rhizome.org
> >>>> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
> >>>> -> subscribe/unsubscribe:
> >>>> http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
> >>>> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
> >>>> +
> >>>> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
> >>>> Membership Agreement available online at
> >>>> http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> +
> >>> -> post: list@rhizome.org
> >>> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
> >>> -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/
> >>> subscribe.rhiz
> >>> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
> >>> +
> >>> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
> >>> Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/
> >>> 29.php
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> –
> >> Pall Thayer
> >> p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca
> >> http://www.this.is/pallit
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
> –
> Pall Thayer
> p_thay@alcor.concordia.ca
> http://www.this.is/pallit
>
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