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Re: new release

Anyone interested in the 6 Rules For Internet Art should look at this Flash
piece and ask themselves why the orange line is following thier mouse.

-e.





—– Original Message —–
From: "sachiko hayashi" <e-garde@e-garde.com>
To: <list@rhizome.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 8:24 AM
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: new release


> NEW RELEASE:
>
> LAST MEAL REQUESTED
>
> http://www.e-garde.com/lmr
>
> net art, 2003, flash player required
>
> Last Meal Requested investigates our human history through three incidents
of the last 15 years - the Halabja massacre of 1988, the beating-up of
Rodney King in 1992, and the public execution of a woman in
Taliban-Afghanistan in 2001. The images from these three incidents are put
under the light of historical context, thus juxtaposing our present with our
past. At the same time the voices taken from various documentaries
intermingle with them, offering personal perspectives on those social
conditions. By so doing, Last Meal Requested plays with two poles on two
different levels - the past/ the present, the society/ the individual.
>
> My interest in creating Last Meal Requested has been to address our human
behaviours within the context of complexities formed by our history and
society: how our past affects our present, finds its way into the individual
minds that together form society, which eventually succeeds in the fatal
destruction of individual human beings.
>
> The title is a citation taken from "Made in the USA", a documentary film
by Solveig Anspach and Cindy Babski about an Afro-American by the name of
Odell Barnes, who was wrongfully executed in Texas 2000. The last meal he
requested was "Justice, Equality and World Peace."
>
>
> Sachiko Hayashi
>
> Sachiko Hayashi is a video and net artist.
>
> Besides Sweden, her video works have shown at Not Still Art Festival in
New York (2002), European Media Art Festival in Osnabruck, Germany (2002),
Transmediale in Berlin (2003), and will be shown at Boston CyberArt (2003)
and Radiator - New Media Art Festival in Nottingham, UK (2003).
>
> Her net art "trapped" (http://www.e-garde.com/trapped) has been archived
as an art object in Rhizome, New York (2001), and has been shown at various
festivals in Europe (European Media Art Festival in Osnabruck, Germany
(2002), Media Art Festival Friesland in the Netherlands, (2002) and Split
Film Festival in Coratia (2002)) and was part of a national tour in Israel,
which included such venues as Janco Dada Museum (2001-2002). It is currently
on display as a link from Rhizome, New York, Neural.it, Italy, docOnline,
Amsterdam as well as from the Irish Museum of Modern Art. It is scheduled
to be shown at Idelogia II (http://www.ideologia.net), Gothenburg, Sweden,
in May/June, 2003.
>
> Her CD-Rom project (the Norns, earlier titled Dream Weaver) has been shown
at Electrohype, Malmoe, Sweden (2000) and at Stuttgart FilmWinter,
Stuttgart, Germany (2002) where its presentation was held.
>
> Her computer prints shown in Rome and Stockholm 2000, and at Saitama
Museum of Modern Art, Saitama, Japan 2002. Also participation in "Reaction"
by ExitArt in New York 2002. "Reaction" travelled to the Alyce de Roulet
Williamson Gallery at Art Center College of Design in Pasadena, California,
2002, and became part of the permanent collection of the Congress of the
United States of America, Washington DC, 2002.
>
> She is an "artist in residence" in April 2003 at the Experimental
Television Center in New York. The Experimental Television Center has
harboured such video artists as Nam June Paik and Gary Hill.
>
> Founder of internet network DIAN (active through 2001). Also founder and
curator of newly founded virtual net gallery Hz Net Gallery of Fylkingen
(http://www.hz-journal.org/netg).
> + ti esrever dna ti pilf nwod gniht ym tup
> -> post: list@rhizome.org
> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
> -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
> +
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> Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
>

Comments

D. Jean Hester May 20 2003 15:16Reply

Because it can. sigh….


– D. Jean Hester
www.divestudio.org
Interviewer: "Must an artist be a programmer to make truly original online
art?"
John Simon: "Truly original? You Modernist! Whether you make art or not,
understanding programming is an amazing understanding."
from "Code as Creative Writing: An Interview with John Simon"





>From: "Eryk Salvaggio" <eryk@maine.rr.com>
>Reply-To: "Eryk Salvaggio" <eryk@maine.rr.com>
>To: "sachiko hayashi" <e-garde@e-garde.com>, <list@rhizome.org>
>Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: new release
>Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 13:17:10 -0400
>
>
>Anyone interested in the 6 Rules For Internet Art should look at this Flash
>piece and ask themselves why the orange line is following thier mouse.
>
>-e.
>
>
>
>
>
>—– Original Message —–
>From: "sachiko hayashi" <e-garde@e-garde.com>
>To: <list@rhizome.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 8:24 AM
>Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: new release
>
>
> > NEW RELEASE:
> >
> > LAST MEAL REQUESTED
> >
> > http://www.e-garde.com/lmr
> >
> > net art, 2003, flash player required
> >
> > Last Meal Requested investigates our human history through three
>incidents
>of the last 15 years - the Halabja massacre of 1988, the beating-up of
>Rodney King in 1992, and the public execution of a woman in
>Taliban-Afghanistan in 2001. The images from these three incidents are put
>under the light of historical context, thus juxtaposing our present with
>our
>past. At the same time the voices taken from various documentaries
>intermingle with them, offering personal perspectives on those social
>conditions. By so doing, Last Meal Requested plays with two poles on two
>different levels - the past/ the present, the society/ the individual.
> >
> > My interest in creating Last Meal Requested has been to address our
>human
>behaviours within the context of complexities formed by our history and
>society: how our past affects our present, finds its way into the
>individual
>minds that together form society, which eventually succeeds in the fatal
>destruction of individual human beings.
> >
> > The title is a citation taken from "Made in the USA", a documentary film
>by Solveig Anspach and Cindy Babski about an Afro-American by the name of
>Odell Barnes, who was wrongfully executed in Texas 2000. The last meal he
>requested was "Justice, Equality and World Peace."
> >
> >
> > Sachiko Hayashi
> >
> > Sachiko Hayashi is a video and net artist.
> >
> > Besides Sweden, her video works have shown at Not Still Art Festival in
>New York (2002), European Media Art Festival in Osnabruck, Germany (2002),
>Transmediale in Berlin (2003), and will be shown at Boston CyberArt (2003)
>and Radiator - New Media Art Festival in Nottingham, UK (2003).
> >
> > Her net art "trapped" (http://www.e-garde.com/trapped) has been archived
>as an art object in Rhizome, New York (2001), and has been shown at various
>festivals in Europe (European Media Art Festival in Osnabruck, Germany
>(2002), Media Art Festival Friesland in the Netherlands, (2002) and Split
>Film Festival in Coratia (2002)) and was part of a national tour in Israel,
>which included such venues as Janco Dada Museum (2001-2002). It is
>currently
>on display as a link from Rhizome, New York, Neural.it, Italy, docOnline,
>Amsterdam as well as from the Irish Museum of Modern Art. It is scheduled
>to be shown at Idelogia II (http://www.ideologia.net), Gothenburg, Sweden,
>in May/June, 2003.
> >
> > Her CD-Rom project (the Norns, earlier titled Dream Weaver) has been
>shown
>at Electrohype, Malmoe, Sweden (2000) and at Stuttgart FilmWinter,
>Stuttgart, Germany (2002) where its presentation was held.
> >
> > Her computer prints shown in Rome and Stockholm 2000, and at Saitama
>Museum of Modern Art, Saitama, Japan 2002. Also participation in "Reaction"
>by ExitArt in New York 2002. "Reaction" travelled to the Alyce de Roulet
>Williamson Gallery at Art Center College of Design in Pasadena, California,
>2002, and became part of the permanent collection of the Congress of the
>United States of America, Washington DC, 2002.
> >
> > She is an "artist in residence" in April 2003 at the Experimental
>Television Center in New York. The Experimental Television Center has
>harboured such video artists as Nam June Paik and Gary Hill.
> >
> > Founder of internet network DIAN (active through 2001). Also founder
>and
>curator of newly founded virtual net gallery Hz Net Gallery of Fylkingen
>(http://www.hz-journal.org/netg).
> > + ti esrever dna ti pilf nwod gniht ym tup
> > -> post: list@rhizome.org
> > -> questions: info@rhizome.org
> > -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
> > -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
> > +
> > Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
> > Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
> >
>
>+ ti esrever dna ti pilf nwod gniht ym tup
>-> post: list@rhizome.org
>-> questions: info@rhizome.org
>-> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
>-> give: http://rhizome.org/support
>+
>Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
>Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php

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sachiko hayashi May 20 2003 18:20Reply

well, does everything have to be functional, with one possible reason behind
every little thing possible ???????
can it be that the orange line symbolizes the linearity of our concept on
time? or maybe it's there because it looks nice and i felt like that went
well with the graphic composition? what do you reckon?
and, i am sorry, what was the 6 rules for internet art again?
sachiko



on 03-05-20 19.17, Eryk Salvaggio at eryk@maine.rr.com wrote:

>
> Anyone interested in the 6 Rules For Internet Art should look at this Flash
> piece and ask themselves why the orange line is following thier mouse.
>
> -e.
>
>

joseph mcelroy May 21 2003 01:19Reply

I notice you are quick to promote yourself and your agenda with a site depicting violence and victims of violence. Ethics is a slippery slope up your way.

joseph

Eryk Salvaggio wrote:

>
> Anyone interested in the 6 Rules For Internet Art should look at this
> Flash
> piece and ask themselves why the orange line is following thier mouse.
>
> -e.
>
>
>
>
>
> —– Original Message —–
> From: "sachiko hayashi" <e-garde@e-garde.com>
> To: <list@rhizome.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 8:24 AM
> Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: new release
>
>
> > NEW RELEASE:
> >
> > LAST MEAL REQUESTED
> >
> > http://www.e-garde.com/lmr
> >
> > net art, 2003, flash player required
> >
> > Last Meal Requested investigates our human history through three
> incidents
> of the last 15 years - the Halabja massacre of 1988, the beating-up of
> Rodney King in 1992, and the public execution of a woman in
> Taliban-Afghanistan in 2001. The images from these three incidents
> are put
> under the light of historical context, thus juxtaposing our present
> with our
> past. At the same time the voices taken from various documentaries
> intermingle with them, offering personal perspectives on those social
> conditions. By so doing, Last Meal Requested plays with two poles on
> two
> different levels - the past/ the present, the society/ the
> individual.
> >
> > My interest in creating Last Meal Requested has been to address our
> human
> behaviours within the context of complexities formed by our history
> and
> society: how our past affects our present, finds its way into the
> individual
> minds that together form society, which eventually succeeds in the
> fatal
> destruction of individual human beings.
> >
> > The title is a citation taken from "Made in the USA", a documentary
> film
> by Solveig Anspach and Cindy Babski about an Afro-American by the name
> of
> Odell Barnes, who was wrongfully executed in Texas 2000. The last
> meal he
> requested was "Justice, Equality and World Peace."
> >
> >
> > Sachiko Hayashi
> >
> > Sachiko Hayashi is a video and net artist.
> >
> > Besides Sweden, her video works have shown at Not Still Art Festival
> in
> New York (2002), European Media Art Festival in Osnabruck, Germany
> (2002),
> Transmediale in Berlin (2003), and will be shown at Boston CyberArt
> (2003)
> and Radiator - New Media Art Festival in Nottingham, UK (2003).
> >
> > Her net art "trapped" (http://www.e-garde.com/trapped) has been
> archived
> as an art object in Rhizome, New York (2001), and has been shown at
> various
> festivals in Europe (European Media Art Festival in Osnabruck, Germany
> (2002), Media Art Festival Friesland in the Netherlands, (2002) and
> Split
> Film Festival in Coratia (2002)) and was part of a national tour in
> Israel,
> which included such venues as Janco Dada Museum (2001-2002). It is
> currently
> on display as a link from Rhizome, New York, Neural.it, Italy,
> docOnline,
> Amsterdam as well as from the Irish Museum of Modern Art. It is
> scheduled
> to be shown at Idelogia II (http://www.ideologia.net), Gothenburg,
> Sweden,
> in May/June, 2003.
> >
> > Her CD-Rom project (the Norns, earlier titled Dream Weaver) has been
> shown
> at Electrohype, Malmoe, Sweden (2000) and at Stuttgart FilmWinter,
> Stuttgart, Germany (2002) where its presentation was held.
> >
> > Her computer prints shown in Rome and Stockholm 2000, and at Saitama
> Museum of Modern Art, Saitama, Japan 2002. Also participation in
> "Reaction"
> by ExitArt in New York 2002. "Reaction" travelled to the Alyce de
> Roulet
> Williamson Gallery at Art Center College of Design in Pasadena,
> California,
> 2002, and became part of the permanent collection of the Congress of
> the
> United States of America, Washington DC, 2002.
> >
> > She is an "artist in residence" in April 2003 at the Experimental
> Television Center in New York. The Experimental Television Center has
> harboured such video artists as Nam June Paik and Gary Hill.
> >
> > Founder of internet network DIAN (active through 2001). Also
> founder and
> curator of newly founded virtual net gallery Hz Net Gallery of
> Fylkingen
> (http://www.hz-journal.org/netg).
> > + ti esrever dna ti pilf nwod gniht ym tup
> > -> post: list@rhizome.org
> > -> questions: info@rhizome.org
> > -> subscribe/unsubscribe:
> http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
> > -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
> > +
> > Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
> > Membership Agreement available online at
> http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
> >
>

Eryk Salvaggio May 21 2003 03:21Reply

Nothing "has to" be anything. However, there is a rather cliche [in my
opinion] tendency to always have these "scan lines" in almost every flash
piece. It seems to be part of the agreement about what flash art is
"supposed to" look like, and it's just kind of sad that these lines that
follow the mouse are almost always present- and rather gratuitous.

Every artist has a choice in what elements they use in thier compositions. I
just feel that perhaps, looking at the bulk of flash pieces these days,
artists would choose to create something else within the flash framework
instead of relying on any type of shared vocabulary. It's very limiting to
have moving lines all the time. I see it on museum sites, gallery sites, non
profit sites, and corporate sites: If you have flash, you must have the
moving lines, and if you don't have the moving lines, then the grid-like
background has got you.

It is not important, to be sure- I am only talking about art on the web,
after all- no reason to take it seriously.

-e.


—– Original Message —–
From: "Sachiko Hayashi" <e-garde@e-garde.com>
To: "Eryk Salvaggio" <eryk@maine.rr.com>; <list@rhizome.org>; "D. Jean
Hester" <jenajunk@hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: new release


> well, does everything have to be functional, with one possible reason
behind
> every little thing possible ???????
> can it be that the orange line symbolizes the linearity of our concept on
> time? or maybe it's there because it looks nice and i felt like that went
> well with the graphic composition? what do you reckon?
> and, i am sorry, what was the 6 rules for internet art again?
> sachiko
>
>
>
> on 03-05-20 19.17, Eryk Salvaggio at eryk@maine.rr.com wrote:
>
> >
> > Anyone interested in the 6 Rules For Internet Art should look at this
Flash
> > piece and ask themselves why the orange line is following thier mouse.
> >
> > -e.
> >
> >
>
>
> + ti esrever dna ti pilf nwod gniht ym tup
> -> post: list@rhizome.org
> -> questions: info@rhizome.org
> -> subscribe/unsubscribe: http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
> -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
> +
> Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
> Membership Agreement available online at http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
>

Eryk Salvaggio May 21 2003 03:25Reply

I was asking why the orange line is following the mouse.

-e.



—– Original Message —–
From: "joseph mcelroy" <joseph@electrichands.com>
To: <list@rhizome.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 12:19 AM
Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: Re: Re: new release


> I notice you are quick to promote yourself and your agenda with a site
depicting violence and victims of violence. Ethics is a slippery slope up
your way.
>
> joseph
>
> Eryk Salvaggio wrote:
>
> >
> > Anyone interested in the 6 Rules For Internet Art should look at this
> > Flash
> > piece and ask themselves why the orange line is following thier mouse.
> >
> > -e.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > —– Original Message —–
> > From: "sachiko hayashi" <e-garde@e-garde.com>
> > To: <list@rhizome.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 8:24 AM
> > Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: new release
> >
> >
> > > NEW RELEASE:
> > >
> > > LAST MEAL REQUESTED
> > >
> > > http://www.e-garde.com/lmr
> > >
> > > net art, 2003, flash player required
> > >
> > > Last Meal Requested investigates our human history through three
> > incidents
> > of the last 15 years - the Halabja massacre of 1988, the beating-up of
> > Rodney King in 1992, and the public execution of a woman in
> > Taliban-Afghanistan in 2001. The images from these three incidents
> > are put
> > under the light of historical context, thus juxtaposing our present
> > with our
> > past. At the same time the voices taken from various documentaries
> > intermingle with them, offering personal perspectives on those social
> > conditions. By so doing, Last Meal Requested plays with two poles on
> > two
> > different levels - the past/ the present, the society/ the
> > individual.
> > >
> > > My interest in creating Last Meal Requested has been to address our
> > human
> > behaviours within the context of complexities formed by our history
> > and
> > society: how our past affects our present, finds its way into the
> > individual
> > minds that together form society, which eventually succeeds in the
> > fatal
> > destruction of individual human beings.
> > >
> > > The title is a citation taken from "Made in the USA", a documentary
> > film
> > by Solveig Anspach and Cindy Babski about an Afro-American by the name
> > of
> > Odell Barnes, who was wrongfully executed in Texas 2000. The last
> > meal he
> > requested was "Justice, Equality and World Peace."
> > >
> > >
> > > Sachiko Hayashi
> > >
> > > Sachiko Hayashi is a video and net artist.
> > >
> > > Besides Sweden, her video works have shown at Not Still Art Festival
> > in
> > New York (2002), European Media Art Festival in Osnabruck, Germany
> > (2002),
> > Transmediale in Berlin (2003), and will be shown at Boston CyberArt
> > (2003)
> > and Radiator - New Media Art Festival in Nottingham, UK (2003).
> > >
> > > Her net art "trapped" (http://www.e-garde.com/trapped) has been
> > archived
> > as an art object in Rhizome, New York (2001), and has been shown at
> > various
> > festivals in Europe (European Media Art Festival in Osnabruck, Germany
> > (2002), Media Art Festival Friesland in the Netherlands, (2002) and
> > Split
> > Film Festival in Coratia (2002)) and was part of a national tour in
> > Israel,
> > which included such venues as Janco Dada Museum (2001-2002). It is
> > currently
> > on display as a link from Rhizome, New York, Neural.it, Italy,
> > docOnline,
> > Amsterdam as well as from the Irish Museum of Modern Art. It is
> > scheduled
> > to be shown at Idelogia II (http://www.ideologia.net), Gothenburg,
> > Sweden,
> > in May/June, 2003.
> > >
> > > Her CD-Rom project (the Norns, earlier titled Dream Weaver) has been
> > shown
> > at Electrohype, Malmoe, Sweden (2000) and at Stuttgart FilmWinter,
> > Stuttgart, Germany (2002) where its presentation was held.
> > >
> > > Her computer prints shown in Rome and Stockholm 2000, and at Saitama
> > Museum of Modern Art, Saitama, Japan 2002. Also participation in
> > "Reaction"
> > by ExitArt in New York 2002. "Reaction" travelled to the Alyce de
> > Roulet
> > Williamson Gallery at Art Center College of Design in Pasadena,
> > California,
> > 2002, and became part of the permanent collection of the Congress of
> > the
> > United States of America, Washington DC, 2002.
> > >
> > > She is an "artist in residence" in April 2003 at the Experimental
> > Television Center in New York. The Experimental Television Center has
> > harboured such video artists as Nam June Paik and Gary Hill.
> > >
> > > Founder of internet network DIAN (active through 2001). Also
> > founder and
> > curator of newly founded virtual net gallery Hz Net Gallery of
> > Fylkingen
> > (http://www.hz-journal.org/netg).
> > > + ti esrever dna ti pilf nwod gniht ym tup
> > > -> post: list@rhizome.org
> > > -> questions: info@rhizome.org
> > > -> subscribe/unsubscribe:
> > http://rhizome.org/preferences/subscribe.rhiz
> > > -> give: http://rhizome.org/support
> > > +
> > > Subscribers to Rhizome are subject to the terms set out in the
> > > Membership Agreement available online at
> > http://rhizome.org/info/29.php
> > >
> >
> + ti esrever dna ti pilf nwod gniht ym tup
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Mark Shepard May 21 2003 03:31Reply

On Wednesday, May 21, 2003, at 07:21 AM, Eryk Salvaggio wrote:

> It is not important, to be sure- I am only talking about art on the
> web,
> after all- no reason to take it seriously.

art on the web?

nothing serious?

guess U R right, as far as this list goes…

Eryk Salvaggio May 21 2003 03:50Reply

—– Original Message —–
From: "debordguy" <debordguy@andinc.org>

> art on the web?

What is that?


>
> nothing serious?

Or everything serious, I don't know which is worse.


>
> guess U R right, as far as this list goes…

The playground and the gallery are the same sandbox now. For better, or
worse, do you think?


-e.

Are May 22 2003 12:54Reply

I'd love to see a Flash piece where the mouse follows the orange line…because it must.

-af

Claudio Parodi Aug. 15 2007 04:31Reply

sorry for any cross-posting…


Claudio Parodi (SACEM) Mu edited version 2 4'59